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MARKET RELEASE Melio and Xero Product Demonstration and Education Session WELLINGTON.

Xero Limited (ASX: XRO) is pleased to announce a virtual briefing session to be hosted by Xero and Melio executives on 3rd February 2026 at 10.30am AEDT.

This session will include Melio and Xero product demonstrations and education sessions for investors and analysts followed by a live Question and Answer session.

Pre-registration for this event is encouraged at: https://webcast.openbriefing.com/xro-ann-2026/. A replay of the webcast will be available on Xero’s Investor Centre: www.xero.com/about/investors 

mikebrisy
Added a month ago

@Jimmy thanks for the "heads-up" as I would otherwise have missed this. I haven't fully digested the webinar, but overall the impression was positive.

Some headline takeaways or impressions.

  • The AI demonstration shows that $XRO have been investing heavily into this capability. I think the demo and the discussion around it provides a good example of the themes we have been discussing in our "Future of SaaS SW Companies" forum here. The customer experience looks pretty seamless to be, with agents working in the background, and JAX able to act as the "Agentic AI Manager". I can really see how both business owners and their accountants can use this to be more productive.
  • I was impressed be the Melio team, and I got the impression that there is a good cultural fit between this founder-led enterprise and $XRO focus on being on the offensive in tech innovation in its industry. It helps that one of the Melio founders is the $XRO US CEO - given the massive market opportunity ahead of them.
  • Businesses, Governments and Banks in the US still write $8 trillion of paper cheques for commercial activity a year --- wow!
  • With the statement that Melio will be EBITDA positive by end Q2 FY28 on a runrate basis, one of the analysts set out what sounds like a pretty clear bridge from FY25 to FY28, and the CFO seemed reasonably OK with this. (So, I'll need to have a look at this to update my model.)
  • Good to see Melio-Xero product integration live in the US from Jan-26 .... from the demo it looks pretty seamless to me.
  • On AI, I loved some of the analytic capabilities shown, including the predictive analytics that leverage both customer data and the broader, huge $XRO dataset
  • Melio seems to be powering ahead ... good ... CEO seems pretty fired up with the Fiserve-Melio tie-up and the opporunity in the banking sector. Sounds like this could end up be pretty material on its own, although there are competing offerings, so no doubt it will be competitive.
  • Important to look at US progression for $XRO in terms of Gross Profit Dollars-added and not % margins, as payment values at low margins likely to scale much faster than new SaaS subs.


So, what is not proven yet is whether $XRO+Melio are better together. Does the combination help accelerate $XRO's ability to attract the marginal new customer in the US. It will take a year or two for that to become clear. The team however, seem pretty confident that it will. We'll see.

On a positive, the integration appears to be progressing well, both at a technical integration level, and at a leadership level.

The Melio CEO made a telling remark that, when the acquisition was agreed he thought the pace of innovation might slow down being part of a bigger corporate. He says, that hasn't happened and, on the contrary that $XRO is fast and aggressive. Good.

All of the analysts on the call are pretty confident about $XRO's prespects based on their current price targets, relative to the market price (!!!)

So, it will be interesting to see what the analyst note report coming out of today's meeting. I make this comment in the context that across the anayst community, views on Melio EBITDA breakeven appear to vary from FY28 out as far as FY32 (Jeffries)! Prior to today, as far as I can tell, $XRO did not give a quantitative statement on when Melio get to be operating cashflow breakeven. So the H2FY28 target is new information, and it is at the positive end of the market's view, so far as I can tell.

However given the MASSIVE gap between TP and SP, I can't imagine anyone will actually raise their price targets? Let's see.

Disc: Held (RL, 6.5%)

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Solvetheriddle
Added a month ago

@mikebrisy Ive been a sceptic on XRO and still think the US will be a challenge for them. I had a buy target of $100 at the last result, as i recall, now we are here, but I had no idea about the software meltdown. Having said that, I thought this was the best presentation I have seen from XRO that i can remember. despite all the usual bluster, there was evidence of being offensive strategically as well as being pragmatic...a good mix

on XRO specifically, it is good that Melio is still tracking for growth. Also, they have a range of AI agents at work already. The monetisation sounded a bit of a suck it and see, but i think that's the case for the industry at this stage. i also liked that they seem more pragmatic in their approach. willing to adapt to the changing nature of the industry, which i think is required at this stage. The big point, as you make, Mike, is whether the marginal buyer be attracted to the combined XRO proposition in a very competitive market.

on the industry, the discussion around positioning of software winners and losers re the integration with the system of record, as well as holding client proprietary data, which has been mentioned before, may be a differentiator in a field where the market has shot all Saas co's. Who are they? well XRO is probably one. makes you wonder if the AI agents will somehow get into the henhouse, that's the fear ATM.

on a portfolio view it will be critical to pick the winners out of the Saas wipeout and not the vulnerable ones, to state the obvious.

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mikebrisy
Added a month ago

@Solvetheriddle great points and I agree with your assessment that it was one of if not the best recent $XRO presentation.

I like that Sukhinder said that she's used Claude to have a go at vibe-coding a $XRO-like tool ... and then making the point that the SaaS moat is not about workflow but about customer data, industry data (form aggregation of customer data, over time), the ability to leverage that data, and then, on top of that, the infrastructure of connections to banks, to partners etc, which you can't just code up.

So I came away from today with a sharper and more precise understanding of the defensive and offensive aspects of $XRO's moat. But of course, none of that removes the uncertainty. that none of us can know how this plays out. Certainly, I think $XRO is relatively well-placed to survive / thrive. But is that enough? Who knows,... not me.

One thing that has slowly dawned on me, is that this cloud of uncertainty will likely remain for years, even in the best case. I can't see there being a bounce-back in peer group multiples. We've changed from the market taking the leap of faith that software and SaaS eats everything, to "show me the money". So, even if the money is shown (which is my current view for carefully selected holdings), going from "faith" to "evidence" becomes a material multiple reset.

It is the "SaaS GLP-1 moment".

So, why do I continue to hold? Well, I do think the market reaction has overshot. The time to sell was 3 months ago. Selling now risks being stupid.

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Solvetheriddle
Added a month ago

@mikebrisy same thing occurred to me, even if Saas companies report good numbers, and many do, the bear argument will be, wait AI agents are still coming, getting stronger, and it will be devastating......hard to tell what the future will be like in 5-10 years. im more in the show me the damage camp, at this stage, so im interested, but total portfolio exposure should be kept in mind. i think you are right no quick re-rate, but i want to be on the winners here, not the ones who will be eaten alive.

In a perverse way, it is a similar argument but the opposite of the TSLA bull arguments, every time TSLA has poor numbers, the bulls say wait its coming and its goign to be huge, FSD, robots etc....again hard to argue against the unknown. Same with BTC, IMO, but that's just me.

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