Forum Topics KYP KYP FY26 H1 Results Webinar Notes

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Added a month ago

Below are my as it ran notes form the webinar and quick take on H1 results. On hearing the expansion in TAM opportunity I bought a small (1%) monitor position on the basis that the thing stopping me was my view on a very limited TAM, but that bear case is a lot less likely now. Market liked it, going from a balance buy/sell to almost 4:1 with the price up 16.7% as I write.

Webinar notes:

  • AI embedded over the last 12 months, but not shared due to viewing as a competitive advantage. Has evolved over the period naturally with learnings and experience rather than to be forced on expectations.
  • Compliance is complex and bespoke to companies.
  • KC now opens up 5-500 worker range (300k potential customers) Vs previous 500+ workers (2k potential customers)
  • Deployment advantage from an implementation for large customers, but SMB now online and via live chat to speed up enterprise also.
  • Marketing spend remains constant but CV check redirected to KC. Increase in spend would be data dependent.
  • AI is 80% people and 20% tech, it is mistakenly seen as the other way around. People leader is the AI leader (Odelia) - AI first but not always…
  • Using Claud as their selected LLM for the last 12 months.
  • AI embedded in end-to-end development process.
  • Plan to use of natural language queries within the platform and anticipatory offering
  • Private data handling – probably not something an LLM will be trusted with.
  • Investment is already done in KC with AI as native to it’s architecture.
  • Built a ~$10m pipeline in 3 months and SMB 35 sign ups.
  • Only 3 months into launch so unable to predict conversion rates or growth expectations, but should have some indication by Q4.
  • Will allow existing SAAS customers to choose when/if they want to roll over to KC.
  • Management target of having international revenue this year – will share more as this evolves.
  • Capex spend currently expected to be a little lower but subject to opportunities.
  • AI offers higher servicing capacity on existing head count rather than an opportunity to reduce head count.

Quick observations on H1 Results

  • NPAT of A$861k was better than I anticipated, up slightly on H2 FY25 (A$712k), I had expected high employee costs (+SBC) given a significant jump last half, but it’s basically flat.
  • Most of the half on half increase in cost was depreciation and amortization +350k (+22%) but also country to the talk in the presentation marketing was up +133k (+11%).
  • Revenue up A$1.1m (+7%) half on half was a surprise and carried the result.
  • Margin lifted slightly half on half from 65.5% to 65.9%, moving in the right direction but still shy of 66.9% peak for FY22, so I am wondering how long before we see the improved margins from SAAS Michael talked about in the SM interview.
  • CF yet to look at closely, receipts and payments are up and any change is small and messy at a glance, we are coming off low bases for FCF so hard to judge any breakout.

I had done some preparation work coming into the result but need to do more before any further purchases, hopefully the price holds around current levels. I was looking for below 15c but the update makes me comfortable around 20c for a small research position.

twee
Added a month ago

Good notes @Tom73

I am starting to understand the company presentation style now and came away from the webinar a bit more cynical.

The new compliance product, Compliance X, was launched in March 2025 and they claim that as a success in the FY25 results. Now, following H1FY26, they have renamed and rebranded it to Kinatico Compliance and are stating it launched in October 2025. Claiming success for launching the same or a similar product twice is a bit rich to me and at the very least is not transparent.

The pivot to talking about AI used in development I took with a healthy pinch of salt, although it shows good marketing skills.

I felt the CEO deflected the question on cannibalisation and did not answer the margin questions fully. Similarly, in the SM interview. It is definitely a situation where you need to dig beyond the presented information to understand fully. My feeling is that the existing SaaS revenue is not as high quality as I expected and is quite reliant on the new product to grow that margin, which is something to investigate further. If revenue from the existing products were provided, it would be easier to understand, but as it stands, it is not clear. I hope in future quarters we can see the growth of the new product in isolation.

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