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#misunderstood
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Last edited 3 years ago

Gourav on Ausbiz on Deterra, as well as MIN and FMG. Agree with his views on DRR, think the quality of this company is completely misunderstood by the market. Outstanding royalty model and a great business 

Disc: Hold both DRR and MIN in RL

https://www.ausbiz.com.au/media/fortescue-metals-its-a-value-trap?videoId=14969&sectionId=1908

 

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#Bull Case
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Last edited 3 years ago

My thinking...

A lower iron ore price could potentially reduce BHP revenues from the MAC royalty… so... in order for BHP to try and maintain total revenue I expect renewed focus on increasing volumes. The results presentation, in August, says to expect growth to 2.4x volume - ‘in the future’ (this was before the latest drop in iron ore price). With higher volumes PLUS capacity payments I expect the iron or price to have less impact on DRR. I would expect production to be increased at a faster pace - where possible.

Given a probable lack of royalty based acquisition opportunities (until later - when all turns to mush), DRR intends to pay the royalty (less their party time fees) to shareholders as an increasing dividend. The dividend is already large - comparatively.

Change of director's interest:

Jennifer Seabrook purchased $100k ish of DRR shares Mid-September. She doubled her direct holding (direct holding is now about ½ of her total holding).

Hold IRL
 

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#Broker Valuation
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Added 3 years ago

Goldman BUY rating, target price $5.20, due to:

  • Goldman forcasts EBITDA to more than double for FY22
  • Forecast 9% dividend/FCF yield for FY22.
  • DRR has lower leverage than the Fe miners in the event Fe prices roll further, given the high margin nature of DRR’s royalty business.

I think Goldman's forecasts are way too rosy. Many would agree we are nearing the end of the iron ore supercycle.

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#ASX Announcements
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Added 3 years ago

FY 21 Results

Key Highlights:

  • Revenue of $145.2 million with an NPAT of $94.3 million
  • Underlying EBITDA of $135.5 million at a Post-demerger margin of 96%
  • Declared a Final Dividend of 11.52 cents per share (fully franked) distributing 100% of NPAT

DRR incorporated on 15 June 2020 and demerged from 
Iluka Resources on 2 November 2020. It collects royalties - mainly from iron ore mining at BHP's Mining Area C (MAC). Essentially a company that collects a cheque without lifting a finger.

There isn't much of a "growth" story here, and is largely dependent on external parties where Deterra doesn't have control over such as the growth of the MAC South Flank mining capacity.  We are yet to see what "identification and evaluation of new royalty opportunities" exactly are. With a net cash position of $40 million hopefully something interesting comes out soon.

Disclosure: held.

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#Trading Update
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Last edited 3 years ago

Royalty receipts for June 2021 quarter $54.9m. Not bad for doing nothing. That is 1.232% of FOB revenue $52.8m + $2m capacity payout +100k from 2 other small royalties. That's up over 50% from the previous quarter - all for doing next to nothing ;-).

Let’s hope they spend our money wisely. Their intention is to increase dividends to shareholders. This is good as I am more than willing to spend money on good wine.

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Valuation of $4.32
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Added 4 years ago
My TP for ILU pre-the-demerger-of-DRR was $10.80, and if you add up today's closing prices of ILU ($6.70) and DRR ($4.13), they are a little over that $10.80 target price - at a combined total of $10.83. ILU shareholders got 1 DRR share for every 1 ILU share they held. I think that $10.80 TP is still OK, but I would split that 60/40 now, so 60% of it - or $6.48 - is my new TP for ILU, and 40% (of that $10.80) is my new TP for DRR - being $4.32. DRR are a little below that now because the market was underwhelmed by their report and first dividend. The real money won't flow until later this year and next year when BHP's massive South Flank mine ramps up to full capacity. The extra royalty income that Deterra (DRR) receives from BHP over that upcoming period will translate into higher dividends to DRR shareholders. However, in the meantime, punters are looking elsewhere, and I'm one of those - I'm looking elsewhere too, having sold my DRR and ILU shares. I was in ILU for the positive catalyst that was the demerger of the MAC iron ore royalty, and that happened, and the combined prices of ILU and DRR hit my $10.80 price target, and now I've moved on. I'll likely have another look at DRR in around January 2022, just before their next interim report (for H1 FY2022), but after their first full year report.
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Valuation of $4.29
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Added 4 years ago
Mining Area C (MAC) is currently Deterra's only significant performing asset and as such forms the basis of current value. The rest of their royalty portfolio is not producing anything of meaningful value and there is no guidance on likely revenue, none the less I am attributing a generous $0.50 price to this as sort of an option value on top of my below MAC valuation. MAC - DCF: Production at MAC is expected to reach around 140dmt by 2023 and DRR will receive MAC capacity payments as this scales up on top of royalties which leads to NPAT of $160-170m through to 2023 based on FX at 0.75-0.80 and average Ore price of 125 reducing to 100 by 2023. I have then assumed a 2% increase in Ore prices for a 30 year life of the mine area to get cash flows. The below table has the per share value of cash flows discounted at 9% at various FX rates and Ore price assumptions for years 2023 to 2050 (when BHP have said they expect to operation to continue to). I have taken a 0.75 FX rate and US$100/t price average as my preferred basis for valuation - adjust the valuation accordingly if you think otherwise, but I accept that it is basically plucking a figure out of the air... DCF price per share: (Top: AUD/USD, LHS: Ore Price US$/t) 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85 50 2.63 2.48 2.35 2.24 2.14 2.06 60 3.01 2.83 2.68 2.55 2.43 2.33 70 3.40 3.19 3.01 2.86 2.72 2.60 80 3.79 3.55 3.34 3.17 3.01 2.88 90 4.17 3.90 3.67 3.48 3.30 3.15 100 4.56 4.26 4.01 3.79 3.59 3.42 110 4.94 4.62 4.34 4.09 3.88 3.69 120 5.33 4.97 4.67 4.40 4.17 3.97 MAC - EV/EBITDA Method: An alternative way to look at it is based on EV/EBITDA, which I estimate EBITDA of around $240m by 2023, which base on current market cap of 2.4b is a EV/EBITDA of 10. Page 31 of the Demerger Booklet provides some comparative EV/EBITDA values for royalty companies, gold miners and ore miners. Take your pick - there is a very wide range, but in terms of royalty companies an EBITDA/EV of 10 is very low, but compared to the major Iron Ore miners it's high. Note that the MAC is Iron Ore only and the royalty companies shown cover a wide range of resources. Given the valuation is based on a 9% discount rate, the current share price is over my valuation and I am looking for companies that can provide a return of 20%+, DRR will not be on my buy list... If more info becomes available on non-MAC royalties, then a reassessment will be called for. NB: The business has mentioned they will look to purchase other royalty assets to provide additional and possibly extend the income stream beyond what MAC provides. If they do, the valuation of the MAC cashflows remains valid as it would be assumed that they redeploy the cash at similar NPV values at the 9% discount rate assumes. Hence I am indifferent to them paying out 100% as dividends or reinvesting in new projects for a similar ROI.
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Valuation of $4.00
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Added 4 years ago
I initially got quite excited by this prospect, thinking it was going to be an underpriced "find". The reasons behind this are: 1) the iron ore price is is pretty strong 2) it looks likely to remain strong for some time 1-2 years (but who really knows) 3) BHP are about to expand their production in the area DRR have royalty rights 4) its a capital light business so all that extra royalty stream will convert straight to extra dividends 5) in these yield-starved times, investors are prepared to pay significantly for any kind of yield so the SP should appreciate significantly in the event of a lift in yield 6) with a re-rate it is possible to exit with a healthy profit However. It would appear everyone else has the same idea, and management are keen to expand. So the cash will be diverted from divvies to investment. There goes the re-rate on yield. Secondly, the risks of buying royalty streams at elevated prices (everything is expensive nowadays) increase the risk that they will be over-paying, thus reducing future returns. Plugging various irons ore prices and ROM, give a range of cash streams to DRR. It would take sustained irons ore price at current levels, good ROMs from the new area opening up plus restrained new purchases from management to justify paying much more than $4.50. Add in a margin of safety to bring it down to $4.00. Having said that, in the hunt for yield in the TINA environment, todays price could be considered reasonable
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#Company Presentations
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Last edited 4 years ago

16-Nov-2020:  Investor Presentation at UBS Australasia Virtual Conference 2020.

[I hold DDR shares.]  [Edit:  No - sorry - I do NOT hold DDR shares... I hold DRR shares.  DDR=Dicker Data.  I hold Deterra Royalties shares.]

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