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Slightly edited copy and paste from latest Mere monthly report: https://www.merewethercapital.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/MC-Nov-24-Report.pdf


CSX is a classic busted IPO, floating in late 2020 on the back of an explosion in revenue to healthcare customers who received Government funding as a response to the Covid pandemic. After doing $11.2m in revenue to industrial customers in 2019, large sales to healthcare customers saw revenue grow to $28.4m in 2020 and $49.9m in 2021.

Unfortunately, healthcare customers panic buying respirators with Government funding sent a false signal to CSX management, who pivoted their business model to try and grow further into hospitals. While the industrial business is entirely sold through distributors who provide sales, training and support to end customers, CSX in-housed these functions for healthcare customers which saw the cost base of the business grow from $8.2m in 2019 to a peak of $24.9m in 2022.

A ballooning cost base combined with collapsing revenues from healthcare customers saw CSX swing from a $16m operating profit in 2021 to a $15.1m operating loss in 2022. The market reaction was savage, with the share price falling from highs above $7 to a low of 20c.

However, of course digging deeper shows a different story. Splitting out segment revenue shows an industrial segment growing at ~37% per year over the last two years while healthcare has fallen to essentially zero:

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With the business shifting back to its previous operating model of selling industrial units through distributors, the excess cost base has also been removed with the business rapidly moving back towards profitability:

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The market is often very poor at recognising business models that will exhibit exceptionally strong operating leverage as they scale. However, once the leverage shows up in the reported numbers, the market tends to get quite excited!

CSX has a business model that inherently has very strong operating leverage. It begins with 70-75% gross margins, world class levels for a manufacturer driven by CSX selling their PAPR’s with high-margin recurring consumables (masks and filters).

As already detailed, the use of distributors around the globe to reach industrial end customers greatly reduces the sales and support footprint required. As an example, speaking recently with the CEO he outlined how the US sales team was being restructured with the previous healthcare focused team let go with the current plan to have four industrial focused sales representatives for the entire country.

The manufacturing itself is also very capital light, with less than $1m in plant and equipment on the balance sheet as manufacturing is simple manual assembly.

Interestingly, the volatile history of CSX means we don’t have to guess what we think operating leverage may look like in the future, because the spike of Covid healthcare sales gave us a very brief glimpse of the business’s economics at scale. In the calendar year 2020, CSX did $60.8m revenue which resulted in $26m operating profit. Again, the potential for 40% operating profit margins is world class for a manufacturer.

So, all of that is to say I am confident that if CSX continues to grow it will soon become profitable and beyond that become exceptionally profitable. The key question is how confident can we be of future growth?

Answering that question begins with the product itself and how it compares to peers in the industrial PAPR segment.

CSX was founded by Dan Kao in 2009 after spending the previous 8 years at Resmed as a Senior Design Engineer. Dan saw the potential to take Resmed’s sleep apnoea respirator technology and apply it to the industrial market.

Generally speaking, competitors in the industrial PAPR segment are quite low tech, using fans to blow a constant stream of air through a tube connected to a face mask. With a constant stream, those PAPR machines will filter roughly 180L of air per minute, however by using a patented technology CSX products sense the changes in air pressure as a user breathes and only blows in filtered air as they inhale.

With that technology, CSX respirators process less than 50L of air per minute (assuming the user is breathing normally) meaning they can drastically reduce the footprint of the respirator unit. All other competitors use a backpack or belt mounted system to carry a unit that weighs 3-4kgs, but with a smaller battery and fans CSX respirators weigh less than 500gms and can rest on the back of the neck making mobility for users much easier:

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Cleanspace Ultra compared to 3M Versaflo

Together with Bluetooth reporting technology to both end users and an enterprise level for work health and safety auditing, CSX has a best-in-class product that is priced roughly 10-20% cheaper than peers. While a product edge is no guarantee of success against large incumbent competitors, it provides the opportunity for CSX to continue to grow their business into the future.

However, it won’t be smooth sailing. The drawback to the low operating cost model of selling through distributors is CSX will be a victim to the re-stocking/de-stocking of inventory through its customers supply chains. Both end customers and distributors tend to order CSX’s products in bulk meaning period to period they can be victim to lumpy sales depending on ordering patterns.

Which brings us to the recent purchase of our position following a nearly 30% fall in the share price following a weaker than expected trading update at the AGM.

At their AGM during the month, CSX management updated the market disclosing that sales through the first four months of the financial year were flat on last year, below the 30% growth target they had previously set.

A few reasons were provided such as a disruption from the Olympics in their largest market of France and the transition to the new industrial focused sales team in the US slowing sales to new customers. However, I suspect the largest impact was the simple lumpiness that exists in the business that is exacerbated on the current low revenue base.

The start to this financial year was cycling a period of over 50% growth last year, benefiting from the roll-out of new products and partnerships with new distributors. While below budget/trend, management guided to 15% revenue growth for the first half of this financial year and maintained their 30% target for the full year. Speaking to the CEO after the AGM, they have seen normal ordering patterns returning from distributors and seeing very good signs from early US sales discussions.

At the current share price of 35c, CSX is capitalised at roughly $28m with a clean balance sheet with no corporate debt and $8.5m in cash. Management have guided to being at least EBITDA and cashflow breakeven for this financial year despite the weaker than expected first quarter.

However, given the operating leverage inherent to the business model, it is the 2026 financial year I expect to be the breakout. On the 2024 financial results call management stated that the cost base is now largely right sized, and moving forward they expect that to achieve their targeted 30% growth it may require costs increasing 5-10%.

Even taking a conservative view of 20% revenue growth and 10% cost growth, I expect the business can do $2m EBITDA which would look very reasonable against the current market capitalisation. However, like any business around the profitability inflection point, it is the incremental dollars hitting the bottom line that matter and in CSX’s case it should be quite exceptional.

Nonetheless, it is a new position in the Fund and not without risks so for now it is a medium weight in the portfolio. As I’ve said before, it usually takes the market a while to wake up to businesses inflecting strongly into profitability, so I suspect we will get a chance to add to our position if the thesis is playing out.

Bradbury
Added 4 months ago

@Wini Without having encountered their products directly onsite I do think there is a real tailwind in the industrial space with the increased controls required to be put in place for silica exposure from Safe Work Australia.

Particularly given that any activity in construction that creates concrete dust will typically require respiratory protection and I have seen an increase in the use of PAPR masks.

https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/media-centre/news/stronger-regulation-crystalline-silica-substances-1-september-2024


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Where the clean space products sit against competition I’m not sure but they are distributed through major safety retailers

https://www.rsea.com.au/cleanspace

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Wini
Added 4 months ago

Welcome any feedback on CSX, both as a stock but potentially also as a product from anyone who may have used one of their respirators? My research indicates they are very well regarded but seen as "premium" compared to cheaper PAPR's and N95s. But any feedback greatly appreciated, it is the beauty of the Strawman community!

Also full credit to @Rapstar and @mushroompanda for putting this one on my radar!

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Strawman
Added 4 months ago

Great writeup @Wini -- thanks for sharing

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mushroompanda
Added 4 months ago

Great post @Wini! I also hold CSX - both on the Strawman metaverse and in real life.

I think the challenge for this company is going to be distribution. The incumbents in this space are the likes of 3M and Honeywell. Industrial companies buy a crap-ton of various gear from these guys, and active respirators is just one category. So they just chuck it on the list, even though they're expensive and not all that great. Perhaps this is why Cleanspace has quite a bit of success at the individual site level of large companies, but not so much at the central procurement level.

Have you thought about how Cleanspace can overcome this type of distribution dominance?


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Chagsy
Added 4 months ago

Thanks@Wini

I can’t comment on the industrial side of things but had an immunocompromised colleague who wore one of the products throughout the COVID years. (We are both ED doctors, so no Telehealth for us during those exciting early months of the pandemic!)

Clearly, she was highly motivated to get the best in class option as her life depended on it.

She did have a slightly disturbing resemblance to Darth Vader whilst wearing it but never got sick. That is until many months after her 5th vaccination when she had given up wearing it. She’s still with us but it was close for several months. Obviously, this is an anecdote from a different product class, so of next to no value.

I note you state their industrial PAPR is best in class.

Do you have data to support the assumption that wearing the battery and mechanism on the back of your neck is preferable to a vacuum set up? Are there product comparison reviews from end users to support the assertion?

It’s certainly an interesting set up in terms of margins and inflection points. Looking forward to seeing how this one transpires.

great work as always. Much appreciated

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mikebrisy
Added 4 months ago

Hi @Wini, $CSX was on my radar during the pandemic, but things were too confusing then for me to take a stake. Ever since, it has been on my watchlist, however, only on the long list, so I’ve never updated my research. I had recently thought that, by now the dust must have cleared (pun intended) and it was time to take another look. So very interested by your post today, and will give it further thought.

I don’t have first hand knowledge of their products, but many moons ago, when I was a pharmaceutical manufacturing manager, our operators who worked in the old facilities with product containment issues, used Racal hoods to ensure they didn’t breath any product that became airborne during the mixing of pharmaceutical ingredients. While I was not personally involved in the procurement decision, key to my company was the quality and durability of the product, as it was a critical final barrier protecting staff health.

3M acquired Racal in the late 1990s, building on their core capability in filter media. 3M and the Racal heritage are known globally in the industrial space, and in such health-critical applications, brand value is high.

$CSX will need to have distributors who are prepared to promote its unique features and advantages over established incumbents. If I put myself in my former role, I’d find it hard to switch from an established, reputable product. The product is not core to the end customer’s value creating activity, but is a risk mitigating cost. But because the hazard is often high, there is not a high price elasticity of demand (that was my conclusion when I looked at $CSX a few years back). So $CSX has to compete on quality/features/functionality etc.

The industrial space in which $CSX competes is well-established, so before I’d invest I’d want to update my knowledge on the incumbents and the advantages offered by the $CSX product. The current 3M range would be a good place to start.

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Metis
Added 4 months ago

Appreciate the write up @Wini, I do love a stock on the comeback trail that may be undervalued. I can only give my opinion from a healthcare perspective, when I used them in theatres during the pandemic. Specificly the cleanspace halo for which our hospital bought about 10 of them.

My understanding and please correct me if I’m wrong is, the N95 has about 95 % efficacy and depending on which PAPR advertising material you read they state around 99.9%. The PAPR’s can filter a decreased partical size (nm) by some margin, although this does depend on the viral load that they are exposed too and how long they have been running. The N95’s go down to about 50nm, just on the borderline of COVID 19.

I used the cleanspace halo in the shit scared stage prior to vaccination when I had to intubate patients. Once vaccinated and having a bit more of an understanding of the death rates I switched to (and most of the department) using a N95 the main reason being communication. As @chagsy highlighted, there were a few immunocompromised doctors that saw it as literally a lifesaver however and kept wearing them. But I found during emergencies when multiple people are required to do different things at once they are a nightmare for closed loop communicating and it makes things very stressful. For me the risk benefit to myself and the patient skewed towards N95’s the further we got into the pandemic.

N95 Pro’s: 1. Easy to put on 2. Easy to communicate 3. Don’t need to clean it afterwards.4. Can keep on longer than 8 hours. Con’s: 1. Decreased efficacy with both partical size and % filtered. 2. Have to fit test, for example. We had 6 different N95’s and you had to have one that fit your face. This was costly to the hospital as it required each individual to be tested for the best mask. 3. Landfill

As for the Halo basically the oposite of above: other Pros: 1. No fit testing, just 3 small/med/large masks. Cons: 1. Noisy and when I had to wear them for surgeries over 4 hours it really bothered me. 2. Cleaning them appropriately.

As the company is not making any money off healthcare anymore I don’t think it matters too much. HOWEVER: if another pandemic came along I would be straight back into them until risk was differentiated.

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Wakem
Added 4 months ago

Excellent detail thanks Wini. I have used them within UG Coal. They seemed to get a grip of the market leading up to covid and sold many units to multiple mines, personally i didnt like them (Hot, uncomfortable, restricted conversation etc), my preference is for standard 3M disposable mask and soft controls like position etc....

Have you been able to find out what industry their sales are coming from ?

The solution is excellent for those tasks where the hazard exists and the person cannot be removed...


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GazD
Added 4 months ago

Thanks for the write up @Wini

looks like a good setup

nothing to add to the fellow healthcare workers from an experience perspective. Can’t see them being used large scale in healthcare again until the next pandemic… I suppose this would be a ‘positive grey swan’ from a CSX perspective.

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Wini
Added 4 months ago

Thanks for the feedback guys, greatly appreciated. I also forgot to link to this interview with Alan Kohler that Graham McLean (former CEO who led the turnaround, now Chairman) gave last year. While I don't rush out to consume everything Alan does, I will admit like our benevolent Bitcoin overlord @Strawman he has great interviews because he isn't afraid to ask a tough question: https://www.intelligentinvestor.com.au/investment-news/cleanspace-holdings-a-rollercoaster-ride/153012

@mushroompanda and @mikebrisy trust you two great investors to get straight to the key factor for CSX. Bumping up against industry behemoths is tough for any business and CSX certainly faces that with 3M holding a roughly 40% market share. There would definitely be customers who purchase 3M without a second thought given the incumbency and how CSX slowly eats away at that will be important.

I think the key here will be getting their relationships with distributors right. Less may be more in that regard given the scale of the business right now, there is little point in getting inventory into every industrial distributor if you don't have the resources to train and incentivise them correctly to sell (as an example, out of the distributors I have looked these guys are doing a great job: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07tc6ATRP3Q). Remember most companies aren't buying through 3M or Honeywell directly, they are still using distributors so a well-trained and incentivised account manager who can push CSX at the right time will do wonders I suspect.

@Metis and @GazD in the Kohler interview linked above Graham completely agrees with you. Covid was an extreme edge case where Halo was able to show it's worth, but it just isn't applicable for 99% of hospital applications. They still sell the Halo and will have modest sales to existing customers who are still using them to a small degree, but they are definitely not pushing the product as hard.

@Chagsy no hard data, but at a specification level CSX products match or better other larger systems while being lightweight and more mobile. I think that should give CSX an edge in use cases where a worker will be very active while wearing a PAPR. There are a few video testimonials on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cleanspace+review), I also asked a mate who works as an industrial hygienist who said he knows CSX products are very well regarded but for what he does an N95 suffices. Another friend of a friend works at Blackwoods and I emailed him and he responded saying he has a couple of customers purchasing CSX over 3M but as you'd expect most are still on the incumbent. But again, he was very positive on CSX products, didn't really have a bad thing to say. The hard part is convincing customers to try them!

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GazD
Added 4 months ago

@Wini competition an issue of course but you made the point that CSX are compounding their Industrial sales revenue at >30% per year... I suppose you could make the argument it's off a low base but the counter view is the numbers dont lie and they clearly have something.

I suppose if I had a query it would be over the legitimacy of the 'excuses' or 'explanations' for stagnating revenue in the last trading update. I'm inclined to put stock in your take @Wini but I suppose a bear case might differ there...

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