Forum Topics AIM AIM AIM FY25 AGM

Pinned straw:

Added 2 months ago

Disc: Held IRL and in SM

Attended the AIM AGM this morning. Only picked up a few newish data points from the otherwise non-event AGM this morning. Nothing to not like from my perspective.

SUNSETING OF HUMAN SERVICES 

  • 3 remaining customers to transition from humans to AI - UK Parliament in Oct, then Channel 9 and Channel 7 by Dec 2025, fully completing the sunseting of old legacy translation services
  • New professional/consulting services will commence 1 Jan 2026, to comprise 20% of revenue going forward - customers have requested for this to help leverage the benefits from AIM technology stack - this was a nice, simple summary to end confusion around this topic, as it should have been from the start 


FUTURE SALES MODEL

  • Pivot to indirect sales model to enable global scaling - this is an area I would like to better understand when we get a chance to chat with Tony again as this is going to be the key distribution model going forward


FIRST PAID LEXI VOICE CUSTOMER

Similar to Playbox Neo deal, this deal shows a few of the strategic levers that Tony talks about, in play:

  • Channel Partner driven, with the Partner having opportunities in the other municipalities
  • 1 of 45,000 municipalities in the US
  • A win in the Government/AMER quadrant in the 9 squares model

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MONITORING OF AIM SERVICES

AIM has a strong focus on collecting and monitoring of operational data on translation accuracy, latency etc - while needed for auditing etc, from an investors perspective, it gives me confidence that the operational stats that AIM presents will be factual and hence, can be relied upon

COMPETITORS

Translation Technology: 

  • Hyper scalers who will build and deliver themselves, GoogleMeet, MS Teams, Apple Airpods etc - these are AIM’s product competitors but they are all delivered Direct to Consumer on their devices
  • AIM does this translation in an open live environment, doing the translation at source to broadcast with quality control to everyone

Human Translation Competitors: 

  • Other competitors are the actual human translating competitors

Encoder Competitors

  • Largest competitor of encoders - Enco, 20% market vs 80% AIM,
  • City of Rialto unplugged Enco to plug in AIM


Not yet seen anyone who has done the orchestration, Live thus far

TONY’S LTIP

Carried with no conversation

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THE DEMO

  • The Lexi Voice to translate live English to Spanish speech was demonstrated - this was to show the maturity of Lexi Voice in western languages
  • Then 2 AIM employees spoke Mandarin and Hindi, respectively - Lexi Text was picking up and displaying the speech into Mandarin and Hindi text almost real time. But speech translation lagged, almost on a paragraph basis. Tony said that while accuracy was to standard, the latency of the voice translation was not - this was what they were focused on addressing in FY26


I thought the Lexi Voice to Spanish was a bit of a non-event as I am a believer that it works, and it worked well. 

Having done enough live demo’s myself, the choice of Mandarin and Hindi was rather bold, I thought, as the Voice translation clearly lagged. But I appreciated that boldness and openness to publicly admin it is not yet good enough and in a perverse sense, added to my confidence that they will find a way to get it down to the right level of latency. It does feel like Tony is setting the scene up for something in the Asian-language space for later with the choice of these demo’s .... time will tell what exactly!

Noddy74
Added 2 months ago

Good writeup @jcmleng

The conversation about competitors was interesting. Every time the hyperscalers come out with a new translation product (such as Apple's recent airpod live translation thing) I continually need to remind myself of what the moat is for AIM. The competitors slide, which they've shown before, and Anthony's reply to the question again reiterated that the hyperscalers are all D2C focused and AIM - and its true competitors - are in the B2B space. Further, the difference between those two spheres is SO much more than a change in marketing strategy. It's the encoders make AIM very difficult to disrupt. Then when you talk about encoder-based competitors its next biggest competitor is (a) a mile behind, and (b) getting further behind because they're only doing captioning.

I - and it sounds like you - was a little surprised there wasn't more talk about the CEO's RSUs. It seemed like the Chair was expecting it. There was really only two questions for the whole AGM, being the one about competitors and then gramps got up and asked an extremely long-winded question, which I think boiled down when they were going to pay dividends. I agree there are no dumb questions but I'm not sure the same can be said of some of the people asking them.

The demo at the end. It did feel a bit clunky but I was kind of ok with that. I think they might of put the first part of the Mandarin-speakers translation on mute because it took an age to cut in and then was very short compared to how long she spoke. Then the stop-start nature of the Hindi translation was a bit weird too. But they did preface it by saying it was a demo of the bleeding edge of where they are and where their focus will be So all in all, I came away a happy holder.

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Shapeshifter
Added 2 months ago

Excellent summary @jcmleng thanks for sharing

Yes @Noddy74 that completely pointless question on dividends had me wondering if the poor management were up there thinking what the hell sort of shareholder base they have :) Hopefully their faith is restored when they come on Strawman!

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mushroompanda
Added 2 months ago

The "where's my fully franked dividends, otherwise I should have just negatively geared another investment property" is a common gripe at Aussie microcap AGMs.

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SudMav
Added 2 months ago

Hahaha I think this picture and comment says it all


i reckon even he lost interest in the question half way thru asking

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jcmleng
Added 2 months ago

@Noddy74 , agree completely with your comment on the competitors - the replacing of the Emeco encoder with an AIM encoder for the City of Rialto deal was gold! My mindset is to cheer the hyper-scalers and AI companies as they improve this translation space - that raises the bar for AIM to achieve in the B2B space, which then further entrenches the moat/marketeability of Lexi.

Re: RSU's, I was probably like the Chair - braced for questions, expact none and if none, move on. I understand the sentiment of many on the RSU's but for me, AIM=Tony=AIM, so if the RSU's keep him motivated, that works for me. With the scaling ahead, it will become inconsequential.

@Shapeshifter , re: Gramps. I initially had the same "you have got to be kidding me" reaction. But when I stepped back to reflect, I thought, Wow, Gramps gets the AIM story, enough to put a chunk of his retirement money into the company - that surely must count for something in terms of the clarity of the story and the roadmap ahead!

Re: demo. Always a risk with live stuff. Even with a supremely confident Tony, I think it was a ballsy move. But I do think Tony wants to set it up such that he can refer to it in FY26 and say "see, the latency was rubbish in the AGM, but we have found a way to get the latency to sub-8 secs, and in FY27, we are now ready to move from EMEA to APAC as our FY27 region of growth focus ..."

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Strawman
Added 2 months ago

Lol, Nearly spat my tea out reading that comment @Noddy74

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Karmast
Added 2 months ago

How did mgt respond to Gramps question @Noddy74 ?

If they took a Buffet like position and shared they think they can reinvest at a higher rate of return then paying dividends deliver, then all good.

But If they didn’t then you can’t help but have some shareholders who won’t understand the plan. As @Strawman has said many times, you get the shareholders you deserve.

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Noddy74
Added 2 months ago

Pretty well on balance @Karmast

The Chair took the question, which is fair enough as dividends are a decision of the Board. I got the impression that Gramps is a bit of a serial offender as there seemed to be a bit of awareness between the two.

His response was centered around their stage of development i.e. growing technology company not yet at (nor near) maturity. He acknowledged there were different stakeholders and shareholders in the room and there would be a mix of motivations. Although I can't remember him speaking to rate of return, he did say that returning excess capital to shareholders would send a message that the Board had run out of ideas for how to deploy it, and so I think what you're talking about is implied in that answer.

If I had one criticism it would be that he was perhaps a little obsequious. He said the Board would discuss it as a result of getting the question, which I raised a bushy brow at. I can't see them paying dividends for some years, so if they spend even a minute in discussion about it, it's a minute they'll never get back!

Just on the Board - I should have mentioned this yesterday - both the new US-based Board members submitted prerecorded introductions and both are extremely well credentialed. I remember reading their bios when they were appointed last year and being impressed, but even more so in hearing it directly from them. The re-elected Director, Cheryl Hayman, was in the room and also spoke on her own behalf. She spoke well but there was quite an interesting moment when she said words to the effect of how she enjoyed working with and "undermining" management. She corrected herself and said she meant to use the word "underpinning", but it quite a funny moment.

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mikebrisy
Added 2 months ago

@Noddy74 @Karmast yes that’s a fair summary. I found the board chair almost as rambling in his response as the questioner!

But the answer had the essential element ,…. Basically saying it is very early in the company’s evolution and they will be reinvesting operating cash flows in the technology and growing the business. (My words)

He made clear that investors’s interests will be served by share price growth. Specifically, he referred that the SP growth that will follow from the FY29 targets would reward shareholders richly (he’s right there).

He made it clear that growth will require capital, and clarified that this capital would be generated from operating cash, not new equity.

So, while he did not use the words that the returns from reinvesting capital in the business will exceed those from all other uses, it was essentially implied with his response.

I also agree with @Noddy74 that committing to discussing shareholder returns was unnecessary, however, I saw this more as placating the questioner, rather than having any substance.

Finally, I was also pleased to see the two US NEDs added. I agree they appear well credentialed and able to advise Tony in a way that really adds something to the existing Board.

Overall, I was happy with the content of the meeting, although also underwhelmed by the demos. However, I don’t think it was the best forum to showcase the tech, and it would have been good to have seen the in-room demos. I did like the info shown in the case studies.

Disc: Held


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Travisty
Added 2 months ago

I agree @Noddy74 and with a lot of the thoughts posted about the AGM. Not too much in terms of new information, except for the real life case study of the municipality and the strong feedback provided. It goes to show how affective and productive Lexi voice can be in small government settings as well as larger government opportunities.

The most exciting thing I took away was hearing from Otto and Brad in person. While being pre-recorded and an election pitch. I couldn’t help but become bullish when hearing about their credentials and the way they viewed AI-Media’s potential to become a multi-billion dollar business.

The fact they already serve on multiple boards of listed, private and non-for profit companies, makes me wonder why they would join micro-cap ASX listed company board on top of all that. They must see potential in not just the company but in Tony’s vision, which we all know is to be lofty, but becomes more legitimate with the experience those two directors bring on growing products and services.

1H26 is looking to be a catalyst.

Disc. Held in RL & on SM.

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