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Pinned straw:

Added a month ago

I dont really follow Super Retail Group, but it's noteworthy when a $3.5 billion company sees its shares dump >5% after guiding for another record first half sales result.

Of course, the devil is in the detail, and the thing to note here is that despite higher sales ($2.2 billion in the last 26 weeks), profit is expected to drop from the $184.4 million reported in the first half of last year to between $172 million and $175 million this time around. This is mainly because of sales promotions and heavy discounting at Rebel Sport, which meant profit fell around 7% below what analysts were expecting.

My first thought was, "well, that's what happens when a high multiple stock misses expectations", but the PE is only on a forward multiple of 15x.

Perhaps that's not unwarranted given their EPS performance since COVID. They got a huge spike in 2021, but ever since then per share profits have been in decline. It looks like a consequence of a higher cost of doing business, with inflation pushing up wages, rent, and overheads. It's not all just general inflation, though. The group is also working through $26 million to $28 million in duplication costs for its new Victorian distribution centre and a new payroll platform implementation. And, it seems, more theft at Rebel. A sign of the times perhaps.

I'm quite gun shy towards retail these days, so am not tempted by the price fall. But interesting to watch from the sidelines.

Jarrahman
Added a month ago

I really think these guys just don't quite get the customer. Every time I go to one of their shops, it feels like they're running faster than the staff can handle. Things don't seem like they're run as well as they could. Can't quite put my finger on what it is but doesn't quite work.


BCF - always seems to be understaffed and running thin on stock on the shelves. Given the customer here is a discretionary spend, the customer experience is not where it could be. Perhaps it's just my local shop, which is almost 30 minutes away from their closest competitor, but they are missing the mark with getting the extra spend per person.

Supercheap Auto - lumpy purchases bring people into the shop and they do it quite well, but still are missing a little. I went late last week to get a new battery for the car and the staff were helpful and knowledgeable. They had a whole lot of other things in the shop which in my opinion are outside what I believe is their core business. Things like air compressors taking up prime position on the shelves.

Rebel - certainly has cornered the market on sporting goods and clothing. Again, trying to cater to every sport doesn't make sense to me and they have a lot of different ranges, but not the quality and expertise to assist where needed.


If I was the king of the castle, I'd double down on the own branded items at Supercheap Auto with their SCA brand - go harder and provide cheaper options that aren't the fully branded things. Similar to what woolies does with their own milk etc. I may be talking out of my depth here, but a car battery is a car battery for just a standard run of the mill family car.

With BCF - I'd sharpen up the offering and remove some of the more expensive items. They sell small outboards at my local one! I'd never thing to go there for an engine... Take the space and focus on the super high margin products like fishing lures, own branded tents, etc.


Rebel - no idea. I don't buy sporting gear, nor do I buy active wear - just not that kind of person. I imagine that the discerning customer would prefer to get their active wear from the current brand du jour, or their high end cricket bat from the bespoke battery (made up word of where they make bats).


The only thing I can see that they have going for them is their economies of scale, group branding and that they tend to be in with the anchor shops in the larger complexes, but then they're paying for that benefit.

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UlladullaDave
Added a month ago

Not a stock I follow too closely and quite a few moving parts, albeit all under the "consumer discretionary" tag.

The reduction in margin at Rebel seems to be a trend (for a lot of retailers covid really muddied the trends for a few years). I wonder if some of the margin compression is that they have lost some of the "lifestyle" market to new comers – my nearest Rebel at Bondi Junction has racks and racks of brand name clothing. This problem has affected AX1 as well. The sport retailer segment seems to have become a lot more competitive over the last decade or so. And I guess the blurring of sport and casual wear has also impacted someone like Rebel.

Last year's segment results below for anyone interested.

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Strawman
Added a month ago

Whether it applies specifically here or not, there is often a common mistake among big retailers: pushing for growth beyond what is reasonable. And shareholders are likely wrong to expect a large, mature retailer to consistently deliver much more than system-level growth over any meaningful timeframe imo.

Of course, growth is good! We want profits to march higher as that ultimately drives share prices. But what matters most is sustainable growth, the kind resulting from an attractive return on investment. Without that you’re just eroding equity.

Achieving this is difficult when you already hold the lion’s share of your market. The options are usually limited to acquisitions and offshore expansions, which are generally pretty risky. Or operational optimisation ie.enhancing productivity to squeeze more profit out of every unit of sales. And you can get a long way on this front, but its generally a slow grind and you can score some own goals if the focus is too myopic. Cutting service levels or inventory or product quality etc might offer immediate cost savings and a temporary margin boost, but it eventually compromises brand reputation.

For me, the priority for mature retailers should be resilience. Nurturing the brand and maintaining a rock-solid balance sheet is everything. Sales, margins, and profits will always ebb and flow with the economic cycle. However, if you maintain a compelling value proposition and can weather the lean years, you’ll likely reward shareholders over the fullness of time. Not in a NVIDIA kind of way, obviously, but certainly more than you'll get by being a little too cute with "strategic growth initiatives".

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Rick
Added a month ago

We’ve owned Super Retail Group for a number of years. It makes up less than 1% of our SMSF portfolio now. It’s been a reasonable investment for us, and lots of BCFing fun along the way!

Our cost price was $8.30 and it’s paid a 5-6% fully franked dividend (7-8% gross yield). However, I think it is struggling to grow now and EPS has declined in recent years. Analysts are forecasting a mere 6% growth. ROE is still reasonable at 17%.

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I would add some around $12.50 if it fell that low. At that price it could provide an annual return of approx 12%. It’s a hold for me at the current price. I think there are better retailers with superior growth prospects. Universal Stores springs to mind. I’m expecting 16-17% growth from UNI and a 5% fully franked dividend. Just recently the share price dipped to $7.80. I think this was a good opportunity to add a few.

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Karmast
Added a month ago

Yes @Strawman retail is hard...really hard. It's a simple enough business model - buy the right stuff from suppliers, add a margin, and sell it in your retail stores. But it's not easy, as many costs are high (think Westfields ratcheting up rents every year...), consumer tastes change, keeping great sales staff is tricky as they are easily poached and the barriers to entry are low, meaning a steady flow of new competition over the years.

I do invest in retailers from time to time and think I understand it well as my career industry. I would not currently own AX1 or SUL, as both have had major CEO problems in the past couple of years and passenger, complicit Boards, hence the chances of them being at the top of their games right now and doing the store level details better than competitors becomes lower.

Both have some great brands and real estate, so they could bounce back with better leadership again but it's not a hurdle I need to jump over at this point. Give me a Costco (at the right price) or a Dino Polska (compounding founder led Polish grocer), over the local options at present...

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PortfolioPlus
Added a month ago

Two brilliant retail role models mentioned there @Karmast and their business models are simple, easily explainable and ruthlessly executed. More evidence of ‘the people follow the system and the system operates the business’

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