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Pinned straw:

Added a month ago

Looking across my portfolio, Bailador is one that just keeps moving sideways (plus divvies) where they are screaming from the rooftops how good they are at backing winners and having conservative valuations.

Going through previous straws on Siteminder and Bailador, it seems not much has changed in the last couple years albeit a small Bailador sell down of some Siteminder (at a good price relative to today).

I am still of the opinion they should sell their Siteminder completely and return a special dividend to shareholders for them to decide whether to buy into it or not. With such a substantial position in Siteminder, it does frustrate me the amount of management fees they're taxing us plebs.

Given the broad based increase in costs across all industries and cost pressures within small - medium businesses, do we think that Siteminder will have an increase in adoption rates as owners look to tech to increase productivity?

Personally, I am still against the Prophero investment. I don't have any love for buyers agents, especially these guys who clip the ticket from those who don't know that they're getting screwed. Their customers go to them following great marketing and ultimately hand over their hard earned for sweet FA.

Also, Sol Patts has been selling down over the last few years, do we have an opinion of that?


What I like about Bailador is their size and flexibility. They are small team, not overly burdened with red tape, nimble enoughto get into small companies and get them flying along. Siteminder isn't small anymore...



Tom73
Added a month ago

I was there @Jarrahman with Bailador a bit over 6 months ago when I finally gave up on them and sold after holding for 3 years, small capital loss but around break even with dividends.

They seem like good operators, have done well, but it hasn’t done any good for shareholders. The drag of the cost to run it comparative to the size is an issue, but also having a third at one stage of the net assets in one listed company (Siteminder) meant that much of the performance was tied to that company. 

I was not to exited about the idea of investing in Siteminder directly due to valuation (looks like a great business, but a lot of upside is priced in) and the fees were crushing the unlisted returns which were high risk. So why the hell was I there… hope they would hit a massive home run was the only reason I came up with and that wasn’t good enough, so I put the money to work elsewhere.

Surprisingly it hasn’t rallied hard since I sold, still below my original buy price but above my sell.

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Jarrahman
Added a month ago

Thanks @Tom73. I'm really capitulating on it and the 'sleep easy' test is failing at the moment. I'm similarly up in total returns, but down in capital having first dipped the toe in Oct 2021...

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