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Pinned straw:

Added 2 months ago

As I exit this morning's investor call, today I have exited my holding in $CSL.

Last year, following the SP plunge and the announcement of the transformation, I took an initial position in $CSL fully believing it to be undervalued, intending to add to my position as I gained confidence (or if the market continued to improve the opportunity from a value perspective!)

Today, I have reversed that decision, and exited completely.

First, let's be clear that this is still a strong company, throwing off US$1.3bn in operating cashflow, which was +3% on a CC basis.

And let's further be clear, that management are sticking to the guidance announced at the AGM, as below.

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Others will no doubt give a more detailed assessment of the result, so I'll spare the details and get to the arguments that tipped me over the edge.

US Recovery - Not a Hope for Me to Invest In

The situation in the US is not good. The Trump-RFK regime are materially unwinding vaccination programs to the great detriment of health - young and old - in the US, particularly in vulnerable populations. Management spoke of their belief that stakeholder support to reverse policies is growing. While that's good, the current US Administration is proving itself resistent to influence and arguments based on fact and science, and if ever, when things are going badly create false realities, new scapegoats and double-down. My fear, is that US policy change is a FY29 improvement as a base case potentially not materially impacting results until FY30. While this was a definite risk on my radar screen at the time of the AGM, I have been aghast at what the US Administration are prepared to do to their own people, and their responses when things go wrong. I cannot see the "MAHA" agenda succeeding, and it will only be reformed when the leadership changes.

One Strategic Reset is Doable - But How Many Will We See?

My investment thesis was predicated on an aligned board and mangement team, a pre-requisite for a transformation to be successful.

Now we face a transformation program already in flight crafted by one CEO, now to be stewarded for one year by another CEO, before being handed off hopefully in FY27 to a third CEO. No matter how safe a pair of hands trusted lieutenant Naylor is, from my perspective that's 2 hand-offs too many. With each leadership change comes the likelihood of next level disruption, restatements of what can be achieved, and internal instability.

Not for me thanks.

$CSL is clearly not on the right track in the view of the Board. OK, they signed off the strategy, so all they could do next was agree to "retire" the CEO because they have formed the belief that he isn't capable. Which means that they failed first in their decision to appoint him as CEO in the first place, and then secondly, to endorse his transformation strategy. That now surely means that the entire Board is on notice. And so investors have to face the real risk that there is a revolt against the Board, and within the next 1-3 years there is further turmoil.

I'm not in a position to comment on whether McNamee and the Board made the right deicsion to "Retire" the CEO. But what I can say is that the leadership dynamics around this business are not setting up the company for success. It would be one thing if $CSL was firing on all cylinders and performing. It is not. There are political and regulatory challenges, there are problems with the strength of the new product portfolio, there is a major restructuring in train, and there are competitive challenges with existing products.

This is a business facing multiple challenges, with the real prospect of leadership instability for the next year or two, at least.

Not for me.

In restrospect, my decision to enter last year was not a sound one. At least it was only a tentative first step.

Today, I am reversing that tentative step and move back to the sidelines. I made a mistake. But it would be an even bigger mistake not to admit it.

In terms of valuation, it is entirely plausible to believe $CSL is now materially undervalued. I believe it probably is, although, as shown by @Strawman, the business is not cheap for one with questionmarks over its growth prospects in the medium term, as well as questions about the productivity of its R&D portfolio and spend. For me, the question is as much what is the pathway for that value to be realised and recognised by the market. And I just see too many risks around that to have any conviction. It is better to rip the bandaid off.

I'll further remark that the decision to sell (even at a sizeable loss) is a relatively easy one. Across my portfolio and watch list is a long list of other comanies whose share prices are beaten down way below my valuations. I've exhausted my cash resources buying into these ideas on the way down, and I can now look forward to putting my $CSL proceeds to work in places where I have a higher conviction.

Disc: Not held

Raseekingalpha
Added a month ago

@mikebrisy @Rick here are some news for you guys to go thru, does these news already baked in your fav, if not how will it impact

 * The Morningstar Downgrade: Morningstar has slashed their Fair Value estimate for CSL by 22%, dropping it from A270 to A210. They have capped their midcycle gross margin recovery expectations at 52% (down from 57%) citing hospital pricing competition, and lowered their Immunoglobulin (Ig) volume growth forecast from 7% down to 5%.

 * The US$1.5B "Tariff Shield": CSL broke ground on a US$1.5 billion expansion of its Kankakee, Illinois manufacturing facility. Under current US policy, this domestic capital expenditure secures CSL an exemption from the proposed 100% Section 122 import tariffs, while also bringing their "Horizon 2" yield technology stateside.

 * US Federal Court Vaccine Injunction: A US Federal Judge granted a stay blocking the HHS from removing existing CDC vaccine recommendations. This legal block protects the baseline science-based schedules that dictate state mandates and federal funding for the Seqirus division.

 * FLUAD TAM Expansion in Australia: Australian regulators officially expanded the approval for CSL’s premium, high-margin FLUAD vaccine, lowering the eligible age threshold from 65+ down to 50+, unlocking a massive new demographic for the product.

How do you guys see this specific cocktail of news impacting the valuation? Do the operational and legal wins in the US and Australia offset the structural margin downgrade Morningstar is modeling?


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Rick
Added a month ago

@Raseekingalpha i don’t spend time trying to work out the future earnings of CSL by studying the components of the business. There are lots of moving parts, it is very complex, and there are plenty of “experts” dissecting and analysing the business.

I base my valuation on consensus forecast earnings. I find analysts are reasonably good at forecasting future earnings but not so good at forecasting price targets. So I don’t take much notice of the price targets.

My valuation for CSL is not much different to my valuation in February ($160). https://strawman.com/reports/CSL/all

FY27 earnings are forecast to be USD $6.90 per share (approx AUD $9.76). ROE going forward will be approx 16% based on equity of AUD $60 per share. Forecast earnings growth is expected to be 28%. At the current share price of $142 I am working on a ROI of just over 9% including a 3% dividend (McNiven’s Valuation formula).

So for me it’s currently fair value for a quality business that offers a reasonable ROI at the current price. If the share price fell below $130 I would consider adding more. Currently I think it’s a hold. I dare say not many investors would agree with my valuation for CSL. As a shareholder I hope I am wrong and consensus price target of just over $200 (16 analysts) turns out to be correct!

Held IRL and SM

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Raseekingalpha
Added a month ago

Thanks it makes a lot of sense. Nobody can predict prices, now market is looking reasons for sell rather than reasons to buy

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mikebrisy
Added a month ago

@Raseekingalpha I don't have a valuation currently up on SM for $CSL. However, the information in your straw would not materially change my views of the range of potential outcomes for the business, as all the factors are considered within the ranges I foresee.

Importantly, none affects 1) the key risk for long term value regarding the productivity of the R&D and licensing platform and 2) the medium term risk regarding changes in strategic direction as we await certain near term CEO change and, plausibly, in the medium term also from Board renewal.

The issue regarding % GM outlook is not new, neither is the US manufacturing plan.

The Fedral Court Vaccine Injunction does not change the overarching, ongoing adverse business environment in the US stance towards vaccination.

The Australian TAM expansion, on its own, is not that material. However, it underscores the more strategic global positioning of the vaccine business, and the upside opportunity here.

Since exiting $CSL (progressively since January from $182 down to $155) the SP has drifted lower to $140. I consider that further drift to be driven more by momentum and macro-factors, rather than any company-specific information.

Disc: Not held

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Lisa_Llama
Added a month ago

Thanks for the thorough break down of you thought pattern, but what I really appreciated was this line:

" I made a mistake. But it would be an even bigger mistake not to admit it."

I applaud you for that & am actively working on being able to do the same more consistently.

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