Forum Topics PME PME Overview

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Added 2 months ago

Let's start with the big picture.

Medical scans produce lots of very, VERY, large image files. And the number and size of these files is growing rapidly. We are talking about a massive data explosion. Modern high-density multi-slice CT scans can generate over 10,000 images per scan. HD Breast Tomosynthesis files routinely exceed 6 gigabytes, while Optoacoustic breast ultrasounds and Total Body PET Scans can easily surpass 10 gigabytes of data!!

Traditionally, these files were stored locally and administered with software developed by the hardware manufacturers. It was slow, inconvenient and offered very little in the way of software tooling. Legacy technology relied on a clunky "compress and send" model. Clinicians were forced to wait and download massive files entirely across a network before they could even begin viewing them. On top of that, hospitals needed multiple independent desktop systems just to handle different types of imaging like 2D, 3D, and advanced visualization functions.

ProMedicus changed the game with Visage, a bit of fancy kit they acquired off a German mob back in 2009. They paid $4.5 million for it.. actually, the purchase also gave them a broader visualization business they later sold for $14.8m in 2012, which means they effectively got visage for free!

The rest, as they say, is history.

Between 2009 and 2025 revenue and profit has grown ~13x and ~20x respectively. This was achieved with no new debt or equity capital, virtually no share dilution, and all while ~50% of net profit was paid out in dividends. In fact, since its IPO in 2000, the company has increased its shares on issue by less than 5 percent, with all new shares issued simply as part of staff incentives. The business is entirely self-funding, completely debt-free, and sits on a cash and investments pile that topped $220 million by the end of 2025.

Visage was the right solution, at the right time. Radiologists could stream massive scan images almost instantly, using their phone while on the golf course. By leveraging proprietary GPU-based streaming technology, Visage 7 accesses images on-demand rather than moving massive files around. And also using a growing variety of visualisation tools all integrated into the same platform. Instead of siloed programs, Visage provides a single viewer for all images in a patient's medical record, including radiology, cardiology, digital pathology, and even high-resolution photos and videos. By boosting efficiency by up to 50 percent and seamlessly supporting remote work without any speed degradation, the software actively combats the modern crisis of radiologist burnout.

Importantly, the software was easy to set-up, easy to use, and compatible with legacy archives. Through a highly optimized "fast track" implementation methodology, Pro Medicus rolls out large-scale systems in under a fifth of the time it takes industry competitors. For example, they successfully deployed their software across the massive Baylor, Scott and White network in just three months, setting an industry record. And, the upfront costs for customers wasn't onerous, with a minimal upfront commitment and a 'pay-per-view' pricing model. Visage 7 operates on a 100 percent cloud-native architecture, utilizing public clouds like AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud, which strips away the need for expensive on-premise hardware.

As this is a pure software business, it was super capital light and offered incredible operating leverage. Without heavy hardware capital expenditures, the company maintains a highly contained cost base that simply gets better as its footprint scales. Indeed, the business' enjoys net margins that are north of 50%.. NET margins! Even more impressively, their underlying EBIT margins have continued to climb, hitting a staggering 72.6 percent by the first half of 2026.

Today the business represents the gold standard in visualistion software, and despite it's insane growth still only has ~10% of the global imaging market. In the US alone, there are around 650 to 670 million exams performed annually, leaving a massive runway for future expansion. Yet in the absolute top tier, their dominance is clear, with 11 of the top 20 hospitals in the US currently relying on Visage 7 for their PACS. And there's still a strong tailwind of more images, of higher fidelity, and greater tooling (especially AI). Because Visage's streaming architecture is built on the very same GPU processors used for artificial intelligence, the platform is intrinsically AI-capable and ready to incorporate future diagnostic algorithms. They are even pioneering immersive spatial computing experiences using the Apple Vision Pro.

It should be mentioned they also provide practice management software, but that's something like 8% of total revenue. This product, known as Visage RIS, handles the administrative, scheduling, and billing side of the clinic. While it only makes up a small fraction of their global revenue, it remains the undisputed market leader in Australia, secured by long-term contracts with the country's biggest radiology providers.

It really is an incredible Aussie success story, and there's (potentially) a long way left to run. The question, for me at least, has always been about value. While there's little doubt the company has a lot of growth potential left, it needs to be of a degree that it can offset the likely PE compression you get as businesses mature.

For example, per share earnings could 5x in the next 5 years, but if the PE drops to 25x, shares will be at the same price as they are today.

Silky84
Added 2 months ago

I use visage everyday at work

it has been a game changer in terms of being able to personally review images and more importantly be able to call other people (other specialities) who may be at home on call or on the golf course and they can review and comment on the images. The technology is absolutely fantastic. It actually helps my hospital save money as out of business hours reporting can be done from overseas for daytime rates instead of night time penaly rates!

The tech will also fit in nicely with AI radiology reporting.

the big question is what slice of the pie can they ultimately grab in this sector and that is a difficult question to answer! Cant they grow annual revenue to $1bill and maintain a net margin of over 50%? Or will their pricing have to decline in the face of the competivie landscape growing?

I recently took a personal position in RL during this pullback having waited years thinking the valuation was crazy!

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Foxlowe
Added 2 months ago

PME is clearly a world‑class business — that part isn’t up for debate. The question for me is whether the rate of earnings growth from here can outrun the valuation gravity that eventually pulls on every elite compounder.

When a company is already running EBIT margins north of 70%, already embedded in the top tier of US hospitals, and already priced as if the runway is both long and smooth, the investment case becomes less about operational excellence and more about whether earnings growth can outrun inevitable multiple compression.

If PME grows EPS 4–5x over the next five years, that’s extraordinary — but the market won’t keep paying 60–70x for a business at this level of maturity. Even a drop to a still‑premium 25–30x multiple would neutralise a huge amount of that operational success.

So the real question isn’t whether PME keeps winning — it’s whether the pace of that winning is fast enough to offset both its own scale and the valuation compression that tends to follow even the best compounders as they mature.

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Clio
Added 2 months ago

Added as a shareholder's perspective:

Given PME’s valuation in terms of its high P/E is something so often mentioned, and we’ve all heard the line about a growth company’s P/E falling over time as the earnings grows, I thought my experience with PME’s P/E might be of interest.

I initially bought in March 2024 - so 2 full years ago. The P/E then was 169. That was just before the SP started to rise and rise and rise. The EPS then (FY23) was $0.58.

Today, that initial parcel of PME shares is trading at a P/E of 54. At $~121 per share, the capital growth on that parcel is >20% in 24 months (not spectacular, but giving the market’s newbie jeebies, I’ll happily take it). PME’s EPS in FY25 was $2.24.

Conclusions:

1) the hypothesis that shares in the right sort of growth company (like PME) will over time (years) “grow into” an initially high P/E - meaning the earnings will grow and the P/E decline to more acceptable levels - can play out. Doesn’t mean it will every time, just that it is possible and is happening with PME.

2) PME’s growth in revenue and margins (which continue to remain at much the same % levels if not improving year to year) can deliver nearly 4 x earnings growth in 2 years.

If PME can just keep doing what’s it’s doing for several more years, I’ll be a happy shareholder. I fully expect the EPS to continue to grow and the P/E to further decline, even though I also expect/hope the SP to increase over the same time.

Held. (And yes, I topped up recently).

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