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#Bull Case (Not Likely)
Added 3 months ago

@Strawman I couldnt resist. I guess you and Scott will be talking about the wonderful returns on Fridays show.

AMP shares rocket 12% on half-year results and big advice news - MF


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#Dividend payment
stale
Added one year ago

AMP Notice of Meeting 2023 (HSF comments XX.1.23) a return of an old relic of a stock ( Return of the Jedi..lol )

Back on 27 February 2023:

Return of capital and dividends AMP remains well-capitalised and has a strong balance sheet, which enabled us in August 2022 to confirm a return of capital to shareholders of $1.1 billion subject to completion of the AMP Capital transactions, and any required shareholder and regulatory approvals. This included the immediate commencement of a $350 million on-market share buyback, of which $267 million is already complete. As part of our commitment around capital returns, AMP will return a further $400 million via a FY 22 final dividend of 2.5 cents per share, franked at 20%, and other capital management initiatives in 2023. A further $350 million of capital management initiatives will be announced following completion of the remaining AMP Capital transaction

DEBRA HAZELTON Chair, AMP Limited

Return (inc div)   1yr: 20.13%   3yr: -10.68% pa   5yr: -18.36% pa

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#Bear Case
stale
Added 3 years ago

AMP on an asset fire sale mode:

  • $430 million on 27/4 for the domestic infrastructure and real estate business to Dexus
  • $699 million today for international infrastructure equity business
  • Approximately $20 million tin transaction costs post tax


Took profits today as this was never meant to be a long term hold. It was fun, but it almost seems like the business is selling its jewels. Ostensibly the capital will be returned to shareholders so it may be interesting again in the future.

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#ASX Announcements
stale
Added 3 years ago

Divestment of Infrastructure Debt platform to Ares Management.

  • Cash consideration of $428 million
  • To be used to strengthen the capital position of AMP Group
  • Transaction expected to complete in Q1 2022
  • AMP's simplification and spinoff strategy on track.


A welcome bump of 6% in the share price today.

Disclosure: Held IRL and Strawman.

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#ASX Announcements
stale
Added 3 years ago

Delisting from NZX

AMP has announced it will delist from the NZX to a single listing on the ASX. Monday 7 February 2022 being the first day it will trade soley on the ASX.

I see this as a potential for the share price to go lower - more stocks on the market and no doubt there will be NZ shareholders wanting to get rid of AMP shares. Either way, my investment thesis still intact.

Disclosure: Held.

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#Bull Case
stale
Added 3 years ago

Has the worst already passed tomake this a smart punt?

My bull case:

  • Upcoming demerger: AMP Limited as a retail wealth manager in Australia and New Zealand, and PrivateMarketsCo as a global manager of infrastructure and real estate investments with a growing focus on international institutional clients.
  • Regal Funds Management going long on this stock.
  • Net debt is positive, and actually has revenues
  • Alexis George appointed as the "turnaround" CEO in August.


Why this is not a long term hold, but a short term punt stock:

  • A paltry divvy yield of under 1% for 2021 but nonetheless still paying out something. My strategy for this is not income but for the potential upside in share price instead.
  • Negative net change in cash for 2020
  • In the financials space MFG would be the better pick (actually has funds inflows and reputation-wise so much better).
  • It's AMP. Enough said.


Disclosure: pending order, hopefully a buyer today!

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