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#Analyst Views
Added 2 months ago

FWIW Morningstar has also updated their coverage on Audinate

Morningstar currently rate AD8 as a 5 Star stock with a Fair Value of $18.50 (so they see it is significantly undervalued)


Audinate Earnings: No Signs of Improvement Yet

Analyst Note

We maintain our AUD 18.50 per share fair value estimate for narrow-moat Audinate following its first-quarter fiscal 2025 update. The company indicated that it does not expect to meet its previously issued guidance for the full year, which it issued in August. Specifically, the company no longer expects to generate “slightly lower USD gross profit compared to fiscal 2024.” The company did not update its guidance but will update the market after the completion of second-quarter fiscal 2025 trading. Although the update is a further disappointment, we, like management, expect fiscal 2025 to be a transition year for the company and expect growth to reaccelerate from fiscal 2026. At current prices, Audinate shares screen as materially undervalued, as the market appears to believe the company’s current slowdown may signal a loss of competitive position or exhaustion of its addressable market.

We view the current slowdown as a combination of a resolved backlog of hardware products and a transition of the business from hardware-based sales to software-based sales. The former echoed the covid-19-induced chip shortage, which led to artificially high demand in fiscal 2024, which the company is now lapping. The second is more structural in nature. To increase market penetration, the company needs to offer original equipment manufacturers lower-cost ways of implementing the Dante protocol, primarily by allowing them to implement Dante through software instead of through separate hardware chips. We view this transition as analogous to what we have seen in many software-as-a-service businesses, where the transition initially led to slower growth but where the new price points unlock sufficient incremental volume to make up the difference.

Business Strategy and Outlook

We expect Audinate’s strategy to primarily focus on accelerating the secular transition toward digital audio networking. Secondarily, we expect Audinate to focus on building out its nascent business for digital video networking.

Audinate’s Dante protocol has become the world’s most widely used protocol for digital audio networking and boasts a more-than 10 times lead over its nearest competitor, Ravenna, in terms of the number of products enabled with the protocol. Given Dante’s dominant market share, we see little remaining upside for Audinate from gaining incremental market share from direct competitors in digital audio networking. However, we do expect Audinate to use its network effect, its existing customer relationships, and its scale on research and development to accelerate the AV industry’s transition toward digital audio networking. Specifically, we expect Audinate to continue creating new hardware and software solutions that unlock new device use cases and to continue developing new software solutions for AV professionals. We estimate Audinate has around 10% market share in audio devices, which leaves Audinate with a large and highly winnable market opportunity, as the industry digitizes. Additionally, we expect Audinate to gain significant pricing power, especially in its software segment, as its network effects continue to strengthen.

We also expect Audinate to continue developing its nascent digital video networking business, although we view this as a more uncertain and likely less profitable opportunity. Video networking has unique challenges compared with audio, primarily due to the larger data intensity inherent in video data delivery. Because of this, digitally networked video uses various compression technologies that are usually not compatible with each other and therefore hinders the establishment of network effects. However, we believe network effects from Dante’s audio solutions will help pull in AV professionals, who are already familiar with the Dante protocol, which in turn pulls in original equipment manufacturers, or OEMs.

Economic Moat 

We assign Audinate a narrow economic moat based on network effects in its digital audio networking protocol, Dante. We expect Dante to become the standard for digital audio networking, and for digital to continue to take share from analog networking.

Dante is the world’s most widely used protocol for digital audio networking. Over 400 OEMs, such as Bosch, Bose, and Yamaha, license the Dante protocol to enable digital delivery and management of audio for over 4,000 products, such as microphones, mixers, and speakers. Dante’s closest competitor, Ravenna, has fewer than 400 products enabled with its own protocol, and works with fewer than 100 OEMs.

Network effects arise from strong interoperability within networking protocols, and limited interoperability between them. When audio products are enabled with Dante, these products can be easily discovered by- and connected to the Dante- network and other Dante-enabled products on the network, which is required for their audio delivery to be synchronized. Such automated discovery and connection provides a compelling benefit for AV professionals because it allows them to easily add, move or remove audio equipment to their installations. This benefit may even exceed any perceived brand value toward specific OEMs. Products not enabled with Dante can still be added to the network through AES67, which is an industry standard for audio over IP, but the networking process is more cumbersome. Similarly, competing networks can add Dante-enabled products through a more cumbersome networking process. Given the limited interoperability between the various networking protocols, Dante’s leadership position of more-than 10 times in terms of the number of enabled products results in clear demand pull from AV professionals.

OEMs, in turn, need to cater to the preferences of AV professionals and are therefore increasingly choosing to enable their products with Dante, which leads to Dante’s leadership position expanding over time and a positive flywheel between supply and demand. Dante today enjoys a more than 10 times lead over Ravenna, in terms of enabled products, which is a significant improvement from a 6 times lead in 2017. We also expect Dante’s leadership in terms of deployed products to be even larger than its leadership position in available products, due to Dante’s larger network of interoperable products making its products more appealing to AV professionals.

We view analog networking as Audinate’s primary competition. In analog networking, AV professionals connect products by drawing physical cables between them. This cabling is usually many times pricier than digital networking because the cables need to be drawn the full distance between devices. By contrast, the Ethernet cables used to connect Dante-enabled devices can typically be drawn to the nearest Ethernet port in a building. Many devices also don’t require separate power cabling after they are connected with an Ethernet cable. This provides material savings in terms of hardware and labor costs. Additionally, over longer distances, analog audio cabling can suffer from reduced audio quality, which digital audio delivery does not suffer from. Unsurprisingly, the industry has been rapidly digitizing. We estimate that digitally enabled audio devices doubled their market share as a share of new sales to around 10% in 2023, from 5% in 2016. Analog networking continues to be the dominant networking technology, primarily due to switching costs from existing installations and digital networking being cost prohibitive for lower-value devices and use cases.

We don’t yet see similar network effects in Audinate’s video networking business. Video networking has unique challenges compared with audio, primarily due to the larger data intensity inherent in video delivery. Because of this, digitally networked video uses various compression technologies that balance speed, cost, data, and quality for specific use cases. As a result, products using different technologies are often not compatible, not just in their discovery and connection, but also in their data delivery. The industry is therefore still much earlier in its digital transition.

We do believe Audinate enjoys several distinct advantages in pursuing video networking. Audinate has existing relationships with hundreds of OEMs, many of which also make video products. We believe offering bundling deals through these established customer relationships has traces of an intangible moat. A subset of AV products also has networking needs for both audio and video, which makes them an attractive market entry point for Audinate. Also, over the years, Audinate has been training hundreds of thousands of AV professionals on its technology. These professionals already know how to work with Dante-enabled products and are familiar with the brand, which, we believe, makes for an appealing proposition for OEMs. So far, Audinate is demonstrating strong momentum on all relevant metrics for its video networking business. These include growth in the number of OEMs licensing the protocol, the number of products enabled with the protocol, and in the number of products shipped with the protocol. However, this is from a small base, and we consider the market still up for grabs.

Fair Value and Profit Drivers 

Our fair value estimate for Audinate is AUD 18.50 per share, implying an enterprise value/sales multiple of 18 on our fiscal 2025 estimates. We use a weighted average cost of capital, or WACC, of 9%, reflecting high revenue cyclicality, medium operating leverage and low credit risk.

We assume revenue to grow at an organic CAGR of 15% over the next decade, driven primarily by Audinate expanding the market for digital audio networking. We expect EBIT margins to expand to 38% by fiscal 2034, compared with 9% in 2024. We expect Audinate’s operating margins to expand because of sales and marketing spending, as well as research and development declining as a share of revenue, once its network effects strengthen. We also expect gross margin expansion as strengthening network effects result in increased pricing power and the higher gross margin software segment becomes a larger share of the business.

Risk and Uncertainty

We assign Audinate a Morningstar Uncertainty Rating of High.

The AV industry is still in the early stages of digitizing, which means there is still high uncertainty regarding the ultimate market opportunity for Audinate’s products. Given that we view competitive risk as low in digital networking for audio, due to Audinate’s economic moat based on network effects, our uncertainty revolves around the market’s ultimate size, rather than Audinate’s share within this market. Within video, we see additional uncertainty around Audinate’s ability to take market share.

We see high risk from economic cyclicality. Audinate’s devices or license designs are used in products which are highly discretionary. Although these products are often part of systems which eventually need to be replaced, customers can choose to defer these purchases in challenging economic times.

We see high risk from technological disruption. Audinate’s Dante protocol primarily uses Ethernet cables for data delivery. We cannot rule out other methods of data delivery eventually substituting Ethernet cables, such as wireless internet or other technologies.

Capital Allocation

Audinate has an Exemplary Morningstar Capital Allocation Rating, reflecting our assessment of a sound balance sheet, exceptional investment efficacy, and appropriate shareholder distributions.

Audinate’s balance sheet is sound. As of the end of June 2024, it held significant cash with no debt.

We rate investment efficacy as exceptional. Although Audinate is supported by network effects, when it started, it faced the traditional cold-start problem, whereby no AV professionals wanted to use Dante’s protocol because there were no products supporting it and no OEMs wanted to develop products because no AV professionals wanted to use them.

Audinate demonstrated exceptional execution to solve this problem. Audinate found the right entry points into the market, strategically attracted early customers by making them part owners of the business, developed a product portfolio with the right breadth and depth and delivered the right levels of customer service. All of these competing objectives were achieved with limited resources, which demonstrates to us exceptional capital allocation skills.

Audinate does not currently return capital to shareholders, which we view as appropriate given the opportunities for investment into the business.


DISC: Held in RL & SM

#Broker Views
Added 2 months ago

Some quick notes from some of the brokers who cover Audinate (I think @mikebrisy was looking out for this?)

Morgan Stanley: Overweight PT $10.50

1st look at AD8 AGM - large downgrade to FY25e + guidance pulled:

• Delivered 1Q25 US$7.2m gross profit + 2Q25 expected to be broadly similar

• AD8 currently run-rating at c.US$28.8m FY25e GP, a material miss vs VA cons of c.US$42m / AD8 guide of FY25 US$ GP "marginally lower" than US $44.5m FY24 GP

• Weak 1Q25 driven by customer inventory normalisation and soft demand - although 1Q/1H weakness was expected, magnitude still surprises negatively

While AD8 is making progress on adoption (design wins +22% / interest strong on Certification programs), uncertainty is high with 1Q25 seemingly a large shortfall vs internal expectations when FY25 guide given in August

Questions we have:

• What's changed between August guide and 1Q25 result noting a seemingly large gap?

• How has customer feedback / tone changed?

• Are there increased competitive pressures?

• Cyclical weakness across verticals?

• What are the "strong demand indicators" called out?

UBS: Neutral 12m PT $12.20

Headwinds ongoing despite incremental positives

A soft 1Q25 update, with further downgrades to GP g/dance - reflecting ongoing challenges including softer demand, shorter lead times, increased inventory and slower clearance of inventories from manufacturers. While AD8 expects this period to be transitory (FY26 return to growth), uncertainty (esp. regarding Audio growth) is likely to sideline some investors in the near-term (in our view). That said, there are some incremental positives, namely 1) 2H25 new AVIO products and a premium version of Dante Virtual Scorecard expected to contribute to 2H25 earnings; 2) 1Q design wins +22% y/y; and 3) Dante certification and training programs remain strong. Our view around the strength of the business, the competitive moat and the structural thematics underpinning the story remain unchanged, however we recognise that the near-term uncertainties need to be worked through

UBS analysis

1Q was always expected to be the weakest quarter, given the need to work through the over-ordering by a large customer (UBSe Qtrly 1Q $8.8m / 2Q $11.2m / 3Q $11.5m / 4Q $11.8m). However the run-rate of 1Q25 GP (US$7.2m / A$10.6m) is expected to continue into 2Q, which we interpret as another print of US$7.2m. This implies 1H25 GP ~US$14.4m -28%/-30% vs UBSe/Cons. Assuming current FX (AUDUSD $0.67) and cost growth at 7%, this equates to 1H25 EBITDA of A$-3.2m vs UBSe of A$4.2m. If we assume a continuation of the expected 2Q25 miss vs UBSe (ie US$-3.9m vs UBSe in 2Q25), our initial analysis suggests FY25E EBITDA of A$-5.8m (vs UBSe A$12.5m). Assuming an ongoing +US$2m quarterly improvement vs original UBSe in 3Q/4Q implies FY25E EBITDA of A$3.1m

1Q25 trading update

Key Points: 1) 1Q GP US$7.2m (A$10.6m), with headwinds to continue into Q2FY25 (run rate in line with Q1). 2) 7-9% cost growth (in line with prev. g/dance) expected for FY25, below annual cost growth of 28.5% over last 3 years. 3) Growth drivers include increasing adoption of Dante tech, and launch of new AVIO adaptor products and premium version of Dante Virtual Soundboard. 4) Design wins in Q1 FY25 up 22% vs PCP. 5) Dante Certification & Training programs remain strong, with attendance >4,000 per month a contributing driver of global Dante AV installations

Valuation: $12.20 PT, Blended 2yr fwd EV/Sales to sales CAGR / DCF valuation


DISC: Held in RL & SM

#arichlife
Added 4 months ago

Here's Nick Maxwell's take on Audinates results yesterday.

Most of his commentary along the same lines here on SM.

https://arichlife.com.au/audinate-asx-ad8-share-price-recovers-on-fy-2024-results-release/


#Results FY24
Added 4 months ago

AD8 Ceo Aidan Williams Interviewed today on Ausbiz.

https://ausbiz.com.au/media/audinates-record-profit?videoId=37361

#Inventory
Last edited 4 months ago

Great write-ups on here from various posters. One of the things I'm trying to get my head around is what is happening with AD8's customers. Apologies if this has already been posted and I missed it, but there is usually some colour in the earnings transcripts of some of the OEMs that AD8 supplies. The tl;dr seems to be that they over-ordered chips and then customer spending slowed so they are going to spend the next year or so trying to wind down inventory which is basically what AD8 is saying. Here's a recent Yamaha transcript. It seems like this could be a reasonable way to get at least a rubbery feel for where to expect demand is heading.

Now let me talk about the other financial figures. Here is the balance sheet summary. As of the end of March 2024, the inventories rose to a noteworthy level. This is especially due to the inventory of parts staying at the high level. To cope with the semiconductor supply shortage triggered by the pandemic, we raised the level of the stock at hand with the front-loaded order placements, but then the sales volume decline. So we were left with the extra pile of inventories.

As of the end of September 2023, the inventory was as high as JPY 176.8 billion, but we lowered it by a little over JPY 10 billion by the margin. Throughout this fiscal year, we would like to lower the inventory level further down to JPY 142 billion, as described here.

The inventory issue can be seen here. (numbers are in JPY)cac850282cdc54f13994d712f26e92689d6aca.png


Roland Corp has a similar vibe

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The nice thing is these guys report quarterly, so we've got a good way of peaking a bit into the future. Once we can see inventories falling back to where they were historically we know they have more or less destocked and will revert to more usual buying patterns (that's the thinking anyway).

#Morningstar
Added 4 months ago

this would have to be one of the most enthusiastic valuations of recent dates..

Moaty ASX share crashes to five star price

Audinate's forecast for 2025 sent its shares sharply lower. Here's what went wrong and what we think matters in the long-term.

MentionedAudinate Group Ltd (AD8)

Audio networking company Audinate (ASX: AD8) updated markets this week and the reaction wasn’t pretty.

The company, which we recently highlighted as a high quality small-cap stock, saw its shares plunge 50% before recovering to finish around 30% behind. 

Morningstar’s Audinate analyst Roy Van Keulen has decreased his Fair Value estimate for the shares but maintained that they offer value for long-term investors.

Before we dig into the results and the longer term outlook for Audinate, a quick reminder that you shouldn't consider individual shares or funds without having a solid investing strategy in place first. Here is Mark LaMonica's step by step guide to crafting one

How does Audinate make money?

Audinate’s Dante protocol has become the world’s most widely used protocol for digital audio networking. Over 400 equipment manufacturers including Bosch, Bose, and Yamaha license the Dante protocol to enable digital delivery and management of audio for audio-visual (AV) products, such as microphones, mixers, and speakers.

Dante is enabled in over 10 times as many products as its nearest competitor, Ravenna. AV products using the same protocol work well together, while products on different protocols experience more friction. While two protocols could theoretically be installed on the same device, the extra cost of doing so for manufacturers makes it less likely.

Taken together, Van Keulen thinks that Audinate’s business can benefit from network effects as the market for digitally networked audio devices grows. This underpins his view that Audinate has a Narrow economic moat, something we define as a structural advantage that can deliver outsized returns on capital for at least 10 years.

Why did Audinate shares fall?

Audinate’s revenue and profit for fiscal 2024 were largely as expected. But investors were caught off guard by a forecast revenue decline in 2025. This was considerably lower than the 20% or higher growth that was expected by most analysts covering the company.

The coming revenue slowdown stems mostly from two factors – one of which was always likely and one of which could be seen as a long-term positive.

The first headwind was that 2024’s sales were boosted by a bigger than usual backlog of orders being cleared. This meant that 2025’s sales were always going up against a tough comparable. This was expected, but the magnitude of this appears to have been underestimated.

The second factor is Audinate’s continued shift in revenue mix from hardware products – mostly chips, cards and modules that are placed inside AV devices – to lower ticket but higher margin software revenue. This shift weights on sales but helps Audinate keep a higher percentage of sales as profit.

The long-term view

Van Keulen expects that Audinate’s strategy will continue to focus on accelerating the secular transition toward digital audio networking. This market is still at an early stage – Van Keulen estimates that digitally enabled audio devices were around 10% of new device sales in 2023, up from 5% in 2016.

Analog networking continues to be the dominant technology, with switching costs from existing installations and digital networking being cost prohibitive for lower-value devices and use cases. However, a continued transition to digital networking looks likely.

Digital networking requires far less cabling than analogue setups do, a big cost saving. It also doesn’t experience losses in audio quality over longer distances in the same way that analogue setups can.

Audinate is also trying to gain a foothold in the video networking market, however, the market is at a far earlier stage due to its greater technical difficulty – and Audinate does not currently enjoy anything like the dominance it has in digital audio. Van Keulen does note, though, that its existing relationships with equipment manufacturers and audio professionals could put them at an advantage.

How much could Audinate be worth?

Van Keulen revised his Fair Value estimate for Audinate down to $18.50 per share.

This valuation reflects an assumption that Audinate can grow its revenue at an average of 17% for the next decade. The main driver here would be further growth in digital audio networking, a market that Van Keulen thinks Audinate is set to dominate.

If network effects make Dante a “must have” in digital AV devices, this could give Audinate pricing power and lead to higher profit margins. The continuing shift in revenue mix from hardware to software products is likely to boost these further.

At current share price levels, Audinate shares command a five-star Morningstar rating. This means our analyst thinks they trade at an attractive discount to Fair Value. While 2025 looks likely to be a year of transition for Audinate, Van Keulen thinks it could precede a resumption in growth.

Van Keulen attaches an Uncertainty rating of High to his valuation. It remains impossible to know how big the audio networking market will prove to be. He also sees technological disruption and cyclical demand for audio devices as other potential risks.