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Appears to be a nice win from ALC:
What I am not fully clear with is:

But any win is a nice win!
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Had a flick through of the ALC Investor Roadshow Presentation issued by ALC today. I don't normally expect to find anything new but this time, found a few new slides on the Medium Term Growth Strategy and Outlook, slides 27 to slide 32.
It puts a bit more flesh on themes Kate presented at the FY25 results, and looks like the Growth Strategy dry run that is due to be presented at the AGM.
As Phil Collins would sing “I can feel it (M&A) coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord .... "





Finally got a chance to have a closer look at ALC's FY25 results.
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SUMMARY
There were significant positives in the ALC FY25 results, easily the most positive in quite a few half’s.
If I had to point out a negative, it would be that the revenue now includes clearer visibility of “lumpy recurring” capital licenses. As these do not recur annually in a linear manner, only when contracts are renewed, and then not for all contracts necessarily, it does add a degree of lumpiness and unpredictability to the revenue stream. This is the same challenge with HSN’s earnings. But all revenue is good, so will just need to adjust expectations to this new reality.
HOWEVER, I have to admit being less excited about ALC turning this corner vs my other holdings. I think this is because ALC growth is now more “steady” than “fast”. It does feel that ALC is now on the cusp of scaling, although it will be more paced/steady and new-contract dependent, rather then rocket-like.
Investment Thesis Is Intact
Having turned the corner and now turning profitability, it does feel like the troubles in the past few years are behind ALC.
Kate summed it up nicely: “ALC has been right-sized and scaled to enable a matured, repeatable model to (1) add new capabilities (2) add new geographies”
This slide is a good summary of why my thesis of ALC is very much intact and I do want to remain invested.

ALC is current a shy of 1% holding in my portfolio, which reflects my excitement and expectations.
Will wait for Kate to reveal the ALC Growth Strategy towards the end of Sept and work out if I should increase exposure thereafter. Am particularly keen to better understand ALC’s expansion plans in term of geographies (Canada, Saudi Arabia & UAE have been flagged) and adjacent verticals (Aged Care, Community Care).
Detail is per below:
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Revenue and Profitability
The HoH and YoY charts show the following trends:


Costs have gone down (1) Fixed costs by 10% (2) Direct costs by 7% as a result of the change in ANZ contracts - this is on a nice flat/downward trajectory
Staffing levels are expected to be similar in FY26, with employee spend mostly focused on Sales & Marketing this year to drive further revenue growth
Which enable ALC to achieve its maiden full-year NPAT and EBITDA.


Rule of 40
Used EBITDA and Maintenance & Support, Annual Licenses recurring revenue, in line with how ALC defines recurring revenue, to calculate the Rule of 40
Rule of 40 - big jump of 17.2% from FY24 (6.2%) to FY25 11.0%
Given the current trajectory on Direct Costs, Total Expenses and Total Revenue, expect the Rule of 40 to steadily rise


Contracted and renewal revenue to be recognised in FY26 is $34.0m, representing 83.3% of FY25 Total revenue
Nice positive 4C update from ALC today. Key takeaways from me:
Onward and upward, it would seem!
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Kate provided good context around the Q4 cashflow which included acceleration of (1) payment of 50% of short term incentives for staff and (2) payment of VAT/GST, both typically paid in Q1. Noticeable Q4 spikes in these cash lines vs previous quarters which should start 1QFY26 cashflows in a good position.
One to watch out for is that ~$8m of the cash receipts for the Quarter were for NCIC capital licenses - this will not recur in Q4FY26 for NCIC, will need to factor this when analysing Q4FY26 cashflows. This caused a bit of distortion with HSN’s 1QFY25 results, so am more weary of these 1-off capital licence sugar hits.
Not inconceivable that ALC used the capital license sugar hit to make earlier payments against STI’s and the VAT, so net, net, the Q4 cash flow result is still a pretty good one. All 3 lines should normalise in the coming quarters.
We had chatter on the forums around the impact of forex on ALC’s revised guidance a month or so back - there is a $0.3m positive FX movement this Quarter, not unexpected given the fall in the AUD in recent months.

While high Q4 cash receipts is expected, seasonally, what was nice to see is all of FY25 cash receipts swing upwards from FY24.

A sharp above trend uptick in cash receipts which is very nice
No concerns from the key expense lines (1) Prod Manuf/Ops Cost rose to support increasing revenue/cash receipts (2) Staff costs increased as noted above, but is mostly in line with the decreasing/flat trajectory - this feels under control and (3) Admin & Corporate costs fell QoQ - this has also remained flat, on trend

“Expansion” of contracts - a clear positive change this Quarter, indicating that the upselling strategy is gaining traction.
Good mix of expansion and new contracts across FY25 - modular platform is providing the flexibility to tailor solutions for digital health deployment across different customer budgets, readiness.
In response to a question, Kate confirmed that the materiality threshold for contract announcements is around $4m.
There was some mention of implementation delays in UHS and 2 other contracts, but Kate reported that ALC was ready to go, customer-end readiness/issues mostly - given the magnitude of change the ALC implementations will introduce, it is absolutely better to get it right late, than to get it wrong early, both from ALC and the customer’s perspective. Nothing worse than bad rap from a problematic deployment from both.

Nothing new with Guidance as this was telegraphed earlier, but always good to see the re-affirmation.
Cash balance of $17.7m with no debt is not shabby at all.

Other Points from Questions
Kate sold 5.0m shares from her holdings of 43.6m shares at $0.085, about 10% of her holdings. She still holds 3.2% of ALC, so still good skin in the game.
Not ideal but after 6+ years, she is perhaps entitled to reap some reward for the toil ... this (and Trump) could improve my top up price!
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SUMMARY
With a positive overall quarter, while growth is no longer at eye-watering levels, it does feel like there is steady positive revenue and contract momentum, mostly around Miya Precision/Patient Flow, amidst a relatively stable cost base.

OPERATIONS
FINANCIALS
Modest operating cash outflow of $0.26M, a material improvement on the same quarter last year (outflow of $3.4m), driven by an uplift in cash receipts from new business coupled with continued strong cost management disciplines.
Cash receipts in H1 FY25 were $15.3M with an operating cash outflow of $4.1M, an improvement of $7.3M over the H1 FY24.

Heading into the second half of the financial year, FY25 contracted revenue stands at approximately $30.8M, which does not include any contribution from the North Cumbria contract or other new deals that may occur before the financial year end.
The increased rate of larger contract signings has been the result of the execution of evolving and maturing pipeline opportunities, several of which are still progressing through the tender stage and into the selection stage of the procurement cycle.
We maintain our position of EBITDA breakeven occurring upon achieving revenue of approximately $36.0M and as result of our continued sales progress we expect to be EBITDA and cashflow positive for FY25
Just announced, I'll take this as well!
Would have been better if this was a Trust in the UK, but this looks like a reasonable sized deal to add to the North Adelaide deal last week.
This might warrant taking ALC out of the doghouse, at least for a bit of walkabout ...!
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Daniel Sharp, ALC Director bought 250,000 shares.

Sounds like a lot but outlay was ~$13k, didly squat, similar to Kate's outlay.
On the back of Kate buying, has this been a Board-wide action to shore up confidence by having each director purchase SOME shares, I wonder?
This feels like another half-hearted, no conviction purchase. Better than zero, thats for sure, but doesnt quite move the dial for me.
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Following @mikebrisy 's notes, I did a bit of googling to try to get my head around ALC's NHS opportunity. Some notes to add to the pot which was interesting for me, but may be old news for others:

May 2022 Article below - behind a paywall, managed to dump this out before the super-quick free trial cut me out. While dated, of interest is the list of 27 Trusts, who at May 2022 do not have an EPR. This number coincidentally lines up with the 26 Trusts which need to implement an EPR in 2024-2026 from above, which we can infer from the Nov 2023 announcement.
Essentially, the list of 27 Trusts below, plus minus, is the remaining universe for ALC to implement an EPR in the next 1-2 years. We do not know which of these Trusts ALC are bidding for/chasing and we do not know the contract size of each Trust.
I think I am going to use the list of Trusts below and work out where each Trust is in the procurement process. Kate mentioned that there is quite a lot of transparency in the NHS Procurement process, so theoretically, we should be able to find out the procurement status of each trust that has at least started the procurement process. Each of the 27 Trust which awards to someone other than ALC in the coming months means there is one less Trust for ALC to win. This then puts a bit of a boundary around trying to define the NHS universe that ALC is chasing and how big the remaining opportunity is likely to be.
Would be good if everyone could post any EPR-related updates to the 27 Trusts below as the list must narrow in the coming months.
For me, this extra bit of information more or less lines up with what Kate has been saying, but I previously had no numbers against which to evaluate the extent of the opportunity/ies, the procurement and budget issues and ALC traction.
In summary:
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Almost 30 NHS trusts do not have comprehensive electronic patient records amid a renewed push by government to get electronic systems into all NHS hospitals, according to HSJ research. A total of 27 trusts - across 20 integrated care systems - reported not having EPRs in place when asked by HSJ (see box below). While some of these may use smaller-scale electronic systems in individual departments, several trusts continue to rely on largely paper-based patient records.
NHS England is also pushing for ICSs to reduce the number of EPRs within an ICS to help data flow more freely between organisations when needed and saving time for clinicians who do not need to learn how to use different EPR systems.
Miriam Deakin, director of policy and strategy at NHS Providers, said getting EPRs into trusts was a “significant task” and added it will be “challenging” for the NHS to meet the government’s target.
HSJ asked every NHS trust in England if they have an EPR, and – if not – whether it was currently procuring an EPR.
Although 28 trusts told HSJ they did not have an EPR — representing around 14 per cent of all trusts (excluding ambulance trusts) — HSJ understands that NHSE believes the number of trusts without adequate EPRs is between 35-40.
The regulator is thought to be aiming for trusts to be using EPRs which would achieve a level 5 HIMSS rating, which is an international standard for hospital IT. It is not known how many trusts’ EPRs would achieve a level 5 rating currently.
Several major teaching hospitals are among the 28 trusts which told HSJ they do not yet have an EPR.
This includes Liverpool University Hospitals Foundation Trust, Nottingham University Hospitals Trust, and Norfolk and Norwich University Hospitals FT.
LUHFT said it was currently procuring an EPR as part of a national programme launched last year to improve EPR procurement. In 2019-20, the trust pulled out of its EPR procurement after naming Intersystems as preferred provider.
NUHT said it was using “elements” of one EPR and had “plans to purchase the remaining elements in the next two years”, while NNUH is working on an joint EPR procurement with Queen Elizabeth Hospitals
All the trusts are outside London except Barking, Havering and Redbridge University Hospitals Trust and the Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital Trust.
Rory Deighton, acute lead at NHS Confederation, said trusts’ efforts to roll out EPRs quickly and effectively have often been “hampered by inadequate levels of available capital funding”.
He said the upcoming NHS digital health plan should “commit to providing leaders with the necessary support to roll out comprehensive EPR systems”.
Every trust which responded to HSJ’s questions said they were either in the process of procuring one, or developing a business case to secure funding in order to launch a procurement.
Several trusts indicated plans to run joint procurements for EPRs or align themselves with other trusts in their ICSs.
For example, University Hospitals Plymouth Trust said it was “working with our ICS colleagues, and under the leadership of the ICS, to set out our case for a future EPR for UHP and the wider system”.
Another trust, Stockport FT, said it had “started activities to progress with this key digital ambition for the organisation, working with our ICS, regional and national colleagues”.
Two trusts in Cheshire, Mid Cheshire Hospitals FT and East Cheshire Trust, said they had run a joint electronic patient record procurement and had chosen Meditech as their preferred provider.
The government has sought to get trusts to use electronic patient records since the early noughties, but its flagship programme to deliver this in the 2000s — the National Programme for IT — failed to incentivise trusts to adopt EPRs amid questions over their quality.
Ms Deakin, NHS Providers’ policy director, said procuring and implementing an EPR is “expensive and time consuming, but trusts know it carried real potential benefits for patient care and safety”.
She added: “Trust leaders know that it’s vital to get EPRs right but they are delivering this while overstretched staff are working flat out to tackle backlogs and deliver care to patients as quickly as they can.”
An NHSE spokesman said: “The NHS is focused on supporting local care systems so that 90 per cent of trusts have an EPR in place by December 2023 in line with the long-term plan ambition.”
Earlier this week staff raised patient safety concerns after four hospitals in Manchester suffered a “total IT failure”.
The trusts which told HSJ they lacked an EPR
Source: Information obtained by HSJ
Source Date: April and May 2022
From <https://www.hsj.co.uk/technology-and-innovation/revealed-the-27-trusts-still-without-an-electronic-patient-record/7032511.article>
My notes from this arvo's chat with Kate Quirke, ALC CEO. Have rearranged the notes into logical headers as a lot of ground was covered in the call.
My Thoughts Reflecting on the Call
@nerdag 's bullish thinking is increasingly resonating. Salter Brothers clearly acted on this.
The only way forward is up (by how much is another question altogether), with a base revenue position of ~$120m over the next 5 years anchoring the viability of ALC. This does not feel like a $0.00 company at all, which is the max loss from here.
Might actually be a very good time to average down - buy when everyone else is fearful. It feels like we are in peak pessimism mode now on what FEELS like a transitonary problematic period.
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Summary of Meeting
Overall Challenges
Downsizing
R&D
Cash Position & Cash Forecasting
UK NHS Activity
ALC Platform Competitive Advantage
M&A
Competition
Nerve Centre in the UK
Telstra Health in Australia
Other Opportunities Discussed
On Hindsight
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