Forum Topics SGI SGI Capital Raise

Pinned straw:

Added 2 months ago

Cap raise incoming..Never let a good share price pop go to waste, eh?

I suspect it'll be to strengthen the balance sheet. We'll see.

Stevie_B
Added a month ago

Whilst complaining and venting about this relatively common situation is quite cathartic (at least for me anyway), I would be interested to hear if any Strawpeeps have suggestions as to how retail investors, individually and collectively, could make this displeasure known and in a significant and meaningful way?

@Strawman - the lack of a retail SPP as part of a CR is certainly something that could be explored at a future SM meeting with $SGI management and any other companies similarly practicing this dark art. Thoughts?

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Strawman
Added a month ago

Happy to make the point to Mike when we see him next (early in the new year hopefully) @Stevie_B

I know the good folk at the ASA do a lot of great work on this front too.

Honestly, even an email to the IR team can help too I reckon. Every voice counts!

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mikebrisy
Added a month ago

"Honestly, even an email to the IR team can help too I reckon. Every voice counts!"

I agree with @Strawman. One email probably won't make a difference. But there are around 50 StrawPeople who are $SGI holders. If the IR guy gets 50 emails, he'll be sure to flag this to MIke and the CFO.

I imagine there are many more outside the Strawman community who have already written in.

Arguably, if you are not prepared to take 2 minutes to write a brief, polite email giving the company feedback, then you only have yourself to blame next time it happens.

In a typical year, I will write to Chairs, CEOs and/or IR teams probably half a dozen times or so. I don't always get a reply, but sometimes it does lead to thoughtful engagement. So, give it a go.

[email protected]

There is another way to think about it. Microcap SPs are often notoriously volatile. You might find that after waiting a few weeks or months, the market presents you with the opportunity to buy the shares at an even lower price than the raising. (I reckon there is a good chance for that with $SGI)

A recent example was $OCC, who did a discounted raise at $1.30 recently. Within a few weeks of the raise, I was able to add more in the range $0.95 to $1.15, Turns out I was lucky to have ben excluded. I know that's not the point here. But it might be a practical remedy,

In the case of $OCC, I never wrote to management to give my feedback. But I did buy the cheaper shares!

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Stevie_B
Added a month ago

Thanks for the response @Strawman and @mikebrisy. It’ll be interesting to see what sort of response I get from IR. Not expecting much!!

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Metis
Added a month ago

Nice reminder about the email @mikebrisyI’ll send one in too. I wonder what total percentage of the company strawpeople own in real life? And whether part of the reason for lack of sellers is a longer term mindset of its holders. That is why I’m disappointed in management as I think they have benefited from a good group of “retail” holders for want of a better term.However in my mind it is a minor point. I’m not sure I personally would have added, with it being 20% of portfolio IRL, thanks to this community.


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Colflan
Added a month ago

Nice one, @mikebrisy. Your call to action was exactly the nudge I needed — I’ve just fired off a short note to IR echoing these points. Hopefully if enough of us do the same it’ll register.

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Rocketrod
Added a month ago

@Strawman , I’m sure it’s infinitely easier to not have to deal with the great un ashes but as you pointed out, this didn’t appear to be time critical.

Surely if these “retail” investors were offered a 15% discount to the prevailing price, they’d be in with their ears pinned back.

I’m overseas and have just woken up to this news and so it could be that I’m a bit discombobulated (ie wrong) but isn’t this the second cap raise by SGI this year where we mere mortals weren’t invited to the party?

Finally, who decides if you’re a sophisticated investor or not? On that type of assessment, I’d have thought more than a few Strawman members would easily clear that hurdle.

Not happy Jan

Disc - held IRL & Strawmam

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Rocketrod
Added a month ago

Great *unwashed*

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Tom73
Added a month ago

To your question @Rocketrod on sophisticated investors, it's a certification you can get if you meet the ATO's required criteria which is one of the following:

  1. Gross taxable income of $250k or more for your last 2 tax returns, or
  2. Net Assets of $2.5m or more.

A qualified accountant needs to sign off on it (simple 1 page certificate) and it is valid for 2 years from then.

You don't have to know anything about companies, shares, money, life, reality or anything else to qualify, you just need to meet the above two requirements - so you could be in a coma!

To get access to offerings that are not "retail" friendly you will need this plus probably need to be registered with the broker/banker that is managing the deal or know someone to get access, because these deals are done quickly and quietly for obvious reasons for listed companies.

Rgs

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Rocketrod
Added a month ago

Thanks @Tom73 , I’m actually classified as a sophisticated investor which shows you how loose the “rules” are… my question is more about who decides who’s a sophisticated investor? I’n sure it’s as simple as you suggest - being a client of the sponsoring broker.

I agree with @mikebrisy and will write to SGI on the weekend. Nothing will come of it I’m sure, but it feels good to vent.

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Tom73
Added a month ago

Just sent my email to IR, thanks for the prompt @mikebrisy

@Rocketrod , no one "decides" who is a sophisticated investor, if you meet the criteria, have a qualified accountant fill in the certificate - you are a sophisticated investor for the next 2 years at which point you need to get another certificate. It's basically a self-assessment system with your accountant.

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UlladullaDave
Added a month ago

And it's a farcical waste of time. If you own a home in Sydney then you are probably a sophisticated investor.

The bad actors who want to peddle garbage know who to target: The low disclosure "sophisticated investors" who have no idea what they're doing and just get over the line by virtue of the fact they have a middle class income or own a home. I'm not suggesting this is the case with SGI, but that is what the current sophs system has created.


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Metis
Added a month ago

@UlladullaDave it’s an important piece of paper that states.

This person has enough money that we’re comfortable letting them make terrible decisions. Whilst giving the institution selling the fuzzy warm feeling of moral and legal escapism.

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Stevie_B
Added a month ago

I couldn’t agree more…just another example of where retail investors get stiffed by the company in favour of the instos and expediency in raising $.

It kills me that companies such as $SGI fail to remember and appreciate the support that they received from retail investors when they were minnows and instos were no where to be seen.

#grumpyoldretailinvestor


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Strawman
Added a month ago

Stealth has raised $19.5m at $1 per share to institutional and sophisticated investors.

As speculated, it was to strengthen the balance sheet (pay down debt), as well as provide extra working capital following the HBT acquisition.

The $1 per share raise was a ~14% discount to the 10-day average price, and will dilute existing shareholders by around 15%.

Given their hyper-bullish FY28 guidance, the discount feels a little steep. But I know you usually have to sweeten the deal to attract the capital. What's really annoying is that we "retail" investors don't get a chance to participate. There's nothing super time sensitive about this raise, so giving the long term supporters a chance to participate would have been the right thing to do.

The raise is quite opportunistic, but I don't fault them for that. Just wouldve been better if we had the same opportunity.

Completion-of-$195m-Placement.PDF

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Colflan
Added a month ago

Couldn’t agree more, @Strawman.

I get that it’s easier not to worry about (trigger warning) retail during a cap raise, but all sorts of things are easier — e.g. throwing my rubbish out the car window. Doesn’t make it right.

Argh. Needless to say, one orange flag awarded to management for this.

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DrPete
Added a month ago

Yes, mixed feelings about Stealth's cap raise.

Cons: No retail SPP. I agree @Colflan, they just should, even if they didn't need to. BTW, does anyone know roughly the additional cost of providing a retail SPP; ie, putting aside additional time and uncertainty about how much might be raised from retail investors, how much more would it have cost Stealth to offer a retail SPP?

Pros: Their timing shows good capital management. An opportunistic raise AFTER the acquisition has been able to take advantage of the share price pop, compared to raising BEFORE probably around $0.60. And this raise gives them dry powder for possible future acquisitions. Finally, nice that instos are continuing to show interest in Stealth.

Agree @Tom73, I don't think this material impacts valuation of the company. Some dilution outweighed by stronger balance sheet.

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lowway
Added a month ago

I've blown this trumpet before.....no SPP offer to long suffering shareholders/supporters when things aren't quite as rosy!!

But your CON points about SPP costs, etc @DrPete have been raised in those previous posts and I tend to agree that the whole time and cost proposition for a company the size of $SGI would be a burden and, even though I miss out on a top-up at $1/share, the offer most likely would have been massively oversubscribed and therefore the scale back would have probably offered each shareholder bugger all shares anyway.

So, whilst I would love to buy some shares at $1/each after having ridden the SGI train since buying for 22cents/each in 2023, I also do get it is likely better for the company and (maybe) shareholders as a whole that they did a closed-door raise.

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Noddy74
Added a month ago

I can't help but make one additional observation about the lack of an SPP. It's not just the dilution that "retail investors" get hit by. Nor is it the missed opportunity to benefit from the arbitrage of a discounted raise. There is a real cost to a capital raise. The release doesn't state whether the raise was underwritten (perhaps not given the steepish discount), which would increase the cost, but MST Financial will get paid regardless.

It will be worth looking at the half year result and seeing what the cost of the raise was. It won't be millions but it's still real money that you're paying out of your company so a select few (not you) can benefit. Bear in mind also that the external cost of an SPP is typically lower than an insto raise because the SPP portion is typically not underwritten. It's more painful for management because there's more comms, a lot more stakeholders and more work in terms of scaling back etc., but per dollar raised an SPP tends to be cheaper.

I'm not picking on Stealth particularly because they're not Robinson Crusoe, but it's a galling thing regardless.

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Tom73
Added a month ago

Good point @Noddy74 and I would expect the cost to be in the millions, at least $1.2m which is 6% of the amount raise and a very normal cost, it's likely that to be higher and may have options/warrents/shares added to the base cash.

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